I Can’t Help It. I Like Him. Even More After This.
It may be the most stunning and creative attack ad yet for a 2008 presidential candidate — one experts say could represent a watershed moment in 21st century media and political advertising.
Yet the groundbreaking 74-second pitch for Democratic Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, which remixes the classic “1984″ ad that introduced Apple computers to the world, is not on cable or network TV, but on the Internet.
- SFgate.com
Brilliant
Los
(HT:Brad)
RAIN IT DOWN
amazing…
Freaking Awesome!!
that is definitely a first from such a conservative office such as the president. But, I’m not convinced that it is real, there’s got to be some trademark issues there…
I like it a lot!!!!!!!!!! Artistic subtle impact.
genius
Stunning? Creative? Genius? Amazing? Awesome?
The Apple commercial in 1984 was all of the above.
That this passes for something even watchable is truly amazing.
Layering (lame) content over such should not be labeled as anything remotely creative.
Get a clue folks – raise your expectations.
BTW: Clinton or Obama – neither one is electable in this US.
Yeah, it’s neat-o. But nobody’s owning up to it. The Obama party said they don’t know where it came from.
I know, I know… “That’s the point. They couldn’t say that and own up to it.”
But I’m not convinced that his camp came up with this approach and not some renegade political blogger.
it is a shame it’s not even on TV.
I’m with Mike M on this one…….stop drinking the obama kool-aid!
Well, obviously the Obama campaign isn’t stupid enough to make a commercial like this. Sure, all the conversation what-have-you is a little condescending and silly, but I don’t think Hillary Clinton is comparable.
But you people knocking Obama saying things like, “He’s just not electable” or “Don’t drink the kool-aid” are eventually going to have to address his ideas or Obama is just going to slaughter the GOP next year. In fact, please keep doing it because it only helps him. If the GOP pats him on the head and keeps saying, “Well, we don’t have to take him seriously,” we’ll have a Katrina-type experience where no one pays attention to what has happened until it’s way to late. Only New Orleans will be the GOP. And Obama will be the hurricane. AAnd instead of bringing destruction, he’ll bring heath-care. And hope. I’d like to see THAT commercial.
I love this guy, he is an awesome speaker and a man of morale and spirit. Someone needs to smash uniformity and come up with something new.
His party did not do this commercial. But I still think it is rad. And he kind of looks like me when I was 14.
Los
He is still all about killing babies and that doesn’t make him cool at all. Man of morale and spirit? How about Godly integrity and um maybe some morals. Okay then maybe I might vote for him. Whatever.
I don;t know any politician about Godly integrity and morals.
I think that is kind of a cop out.
Honestly. Do you actually KNOW any politicians? I KNOW three. All republicans. And all are about their careers and whet YOU and ME want to hear. It sucks.
I just know that we put WAY too much faith in our voting parties. We’ve got a anti abortion president now that has gone and… Oh. I’ll be quiet now.
Although I do love me some applesauce.
He’s all for “killing babies”, eh? Until I hear those words come out of his mouth I would have to disagree. Also, I think we need to get off our pedestals for a second. I by no means endorse abortion, but until we start taking in these unwanted children, how do we have any room to talk about the sanctity of life? I’m interested to hear what Obama thinks he can do for this country. He has a lot of charisma.
why has the hip christian crowd anointed this guy?
Yeah…I seriously don’t think that he is going to stand in front of a crowd and say “I am for killing babies”. I think the PC term is fetus….and partial birth abortion is what he is all about anyways. He fought pretty hard for it on the senate floor. Sanctity of life? Yup, I am pretty sure that we, are all called to fight for those who can’t fight for themselves. I don’t know anything about charisma but if that is what gets you to be president, then then lets elect Howie Mandel.
He’s not annointed. Just refreshing.
And I’m not hip. But I am a Christian.
And I’m not saying I’m voting for him. But I like him the best.
Most.
Okay, now we at least know that his campaign was responsible.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,260284,00.html
…but I’m with applesauce on this one. Obama is definitely pro-[most things opposed to the Christian faith]. He is an incredibly gifted speaker, but we should be listening more closely to WHAT he’s saying and not just HOW REFRESHING the words sound coming from his lips.
Howie is pretty cool. With all joking aside, my vote has never been for Obama. Sadly, the one guy I want won’t be nominated. I’m just saying there’s a lot of hype surrounding Obama. I know he’s voted “pro” for the things that would get him the nod by Dems to be in office. That’s not the best way to go but the man is a politician. The man’s a politician but he isn’t stupid. And sanctitiy of life starts with life but it doesn’t end there. That’s all I was trying to say.
i listened to mike huckabee on NPR. though his website makes him seem kinda dull and just another guy in the republican pack, to hear him in a normal conversation was what i thought was, um, refreshing. honest guy (as much as possible from a politician) with common sense answers. he would get my vote if he had a prayer. but like so many others who put some hope in the reps last time, i will probably skip the voting booth this time out. and we’ll get clinton/obama. whoever gets in, the next presidential term could be tough on the u.s. and a. and you are the hippest, carlos. you can’t help it, it’s who you are.
Until we get a bonafide relevant 3rd party….I will stick with the lesser of the two evils. the Dems to me are not the lesser…..I don’t give a crap who it is…he represents the party as a whole. (Lindsey, Obama may not be for abortion, but his party certainly does. The ACLU loves this guy….and I take issue with them…just a little.) I’m having a hard time deciding who is the best person or the yob, but it ain’t Billar or Oblaba. (who put that soapbox in my office?)
sorry..I’m done
Sorry, I had to go to work…but to get back in here to the conversation…No, I don’t actually KNOW any politicians; but in saying that, I don’t think that you can compare the two. Obama and Bush. You said, Los, “We’ve got a anti abortion president now that has gone and”…which I take to mean that although he is pro-life, he still screwed up his 2 terms in office. I am not a Bush lover. I think he has squandered his 8 years in a lot of ways. But I thought that we were discussing Mr. Obama and for me, if you (Barack) are that blatant in hating the unborn…then the children, women and men who live in this country don’t mean that much either…and those are who he will be sworn to serve and protect as our commander and chief. Yeah….that doesn’t settle well with me at all.
Obama has THE most liberal voting record of all the presidential candidates — yep, further left than Hill and Edwards. I am not against universal healthcare or increased benefits for the poor — in fact those are consistent with Christian ideals. But what I cannot stomach is killing the unborn. And I cannot find any reason to believe that our God can stand murdering the innocent either.
3,000 of our troops have been killed in combat in Iraq, and the Democrats consider this a tragedy and an outrage (which I do also, by the way; I think the war was a mistake). Yet they support killing innocent babies. It boggles my mind. And I’m not some fundamentalist wacko picketing outside of clinics either; I’m a dad who is sickened when my wife, who works in healtchare, tells me she sees women who have had 4 or 5 abortions because they find killing babies easier than using birth control.
So I don’t really care how “refreshing” or “charismatic” Obama is. That’s just marketing, anyway. You do realize that his campaign is spending millions to market him as an outsider, right? Give me a clear defense of how any Bible-belieiving Chrisitian could, in good conscience, vote for him since he supports killing the unborn. How is that consistent with the teachings of our Lord? Shouldn’t Jesus be standard?
And the Apple ad rip-off was lame. Since when is plagiarizing brilliant? All they did was superimpose Hillary on the TV screens. Any amateur hack with a laptop and a pirated copy of Final Cut Pro could do that.
S. Philaja
Yes, Obama may slaughter the G.O.P. in the election. But it won’t be because of his ideas. He has none. He trumps out worn out Dem talking points. Nothing else. Health Care? Nice dream. But whatever someone gets free, someone else has to pay for. Dems don’t get that. Never have. Stand in line for health care in Canada or Europe a few times and see how it’s working. They’re not having babies at a rate that can support their brand of socialism and it’s been crapping out for years. They are crashing and burning right now.
Health care for everyone means doctors have to work for free or almost nothing. That means fewer people going into that profession. That means a lower doctor to patient ratio. It doesn’t work. It sounds good.
That’s Obama. He sounds good and he knows how to. But the closer you look at what he says, the less content you find.
People are inclined to vote for change just for change’s sake. Every time we’ve done that we’ve been screwed. That’s no problem for liberals since for them history began this morning. But for those of us who lived through Jimmy Carter and double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, gas lines half a mile long, and American hostages unrescuable for 400 days, electing an unknown again is not a viable option.
After watching the debate between liberal and conservative “Christians,” I’ve noticed a few things.
Both groups ignore Christ’s teachings on divorce. The divorce rate is pretty high in both groups.
Both groups endorse and/or encourage killing. Conservatives support it in the form of war and capital punishment. Liberals support it through abortion, euthanasia, and embryonic stem cell research.
Both groups deflect criticism by pointing out the sins of the other. If a Conservative group speaks out against abortion, the left points out Conservative approval of the death penalty. Neither realizes that someone died in either case.
Also, both groups take extreme views on gay sex. While the Conservatives seem to place a lot of extra emphasis on it as a sin, Liberals rationalized it away as a “minor” sin, or encourage it with same-sex marriage.
Both sides use selected passages of the Old Testament to their advantage, while ignoring the parts that hurt their point of view. Liberals will quote passages regarding ?justice? or the poor, while ignoring the passage on gay sex. The reverse is true for Conservatives.
Both sides seek Earthly political power, with the goal of imposing their way of thinking on the rest of the world. Liberal want it to impose same-sex marriage on the country; while, Conservatives want it to end aboration for any reason.
Neither group does all it can to help the poor. Conservatives expect individuals to step up and help, but don’t help anyone on their own. Liberals expect the government to take care of the poor, but many have never set foot in a soup kitchen. Meanwhile, as the two groups bicker, people die in the street.
Finally, both groups can be very judgmental. For every Conservative who judges someone on his or her sex life, there?s a Liberal haranguing a Conservative for using Miss instead of Ms.
As far as I?m concerned, you cannot be active in the Democratic Party or the Republican Party and be a good Christian. Both platforms endorse things that seem to be anti-Christian. Also, if the next election is that important to you, your party is probably a lot more important than your God. I?m sure that?s OK. After all, Christ did say, ?Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (EXCEPT FOR PARTY AFFLIATION.) This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.?
Nathan
“Obama is definitely pro-[most things opposed to the Christian faith]”
But you can’t just say that. I know it might feel like the truth, but you can’t just say that when you mean, “Obama is pro-choice and I think Christians should be pro-life.” And that’s cool if you think that, but you have to allow that some Christians are pro-choice and some recognize that it is a more complicated issue than just killing babies. Really, this sort of sweeping comment makes political dialog turn into cat-fighting.
“Stand in line for health care in Canada or Europe a few times and see how it’s working.”
Again, this sounds nice, but unless you actually have stood in line or can cite some information showing that this is the problem, then you can’t really comment. I live in a country with socialized medicine. It works fabulous. Also, the American medical system isn’t quite the world leader in efficiency and simplicity. Yeah, it will cost a lot of money, but now we are bleeding hundreds of billions of dollars into the civil war in Iraq. The money is there, we just have different priorities. Right now, we are saying no one has to pay. We can borrow it all. Cut taxes and increase spending.
Look, i don’t want to be just a person reading talking points from the left (although, for some of us, liberal is not synonymous with “bad”). I recognize that people disagree with Obama and I think that’s honorable. But saying he doesn’t have any ideas or they aren’t well-defined is just wrong. They are as well-defined as any other Presidential contender. “Withdraw the combat troops by April 2008.” That’s pretty well-defined. Again, please disagree, but don’t say that it’s not a well-defined idea. I disagree with Bush, but I don’t think he doesn’t have any ideas or is stupid. I just think he’s wrong.
Nathan
Oops. I hate laptops. What I meant was, Nathan:
There are a lot of holes in the logic of your analyses. I’m not going to write a book here to address all of them, but, “Conservatives expect individuals to step up and help, but don’t help anyone on their own.” Really? Isn’t that kind of like saying, “I was there when it didn’t happen?” Who’s manning the soup kitchens. I’ve got a feeling you’d find a smattering of both liberals and conservatives. In fact, statistically, conservatives outgive just about every group.
“Both groups endorse and/or encourage killing.” That assumes that all killing is qualitatively the same. Scripture doesn’t support that.
S. Pihlaja:
The reason “withdraw all the troops by 2008″ is not well-defined is not because it isn’t clear. It’s because it ignores the consequences. Those were defined in Vietnam when we pulled out and the troops had to stand by they’re helicopters and watch the people who had helped them and befriended them slaughtered like animals while their killers laughed and flipped them off.
Now Bush was criticized severely because he didn’t have an “exit strategy.” In what war was there ever an exit strategy? That assumes we’re going to lose. All Obama and the left have done to damage Bush has resulted in aiding and encouraging the enemy. That’s treason, and I’m calling them on it.
S. Pihlaja:
I can’t argue with your personal experience, so I have to go by the numbers. From “The Guardian”, June 3, 2005:
“The number of patients waiting for an NHS operation in England has increased by nearly 6,000, the government admitted today.
A total of 827,300 patients were on the waiting list at the end of April – up by 5,700 since the end of March. Although there are 72,700 fewer patients waiting for operations than in April last year, the monthly rise poses questions as to whether the government can meet its targets to reduce waiting times.
The number of patients waiting more than six months for treatment also increased. At the end of April there were 45,400 people waiting over six months for an operation – up by 4,600 since March but a reduction of 38,600 since April, 2004..
Today’s figures also showed that just 28 patients were waiting over nine months, of which five were waiting over a year.
The government said it remains on target to meet its pledge that no patient waits longer than six months for treatment by the end of the year.”
Six months for treatment is a goal? I’m not seeing the advantage here.
I’m not saying it isn’t without problems or that the English system is good. I am saying that it can and does work. Even if the quality of care goes down for some (the ones who can pay the most for it), it think that is a reasonable trade-off if everyone can have access. Not that I’m saying it necessarily has to.
Yeah, I think I could accept something between extremes. Government bureaucracy only mucks things up the more of it there is. It tends to produce apathetic workers, and severely limits choice on the part of the consumer. But I can see the necessity of the increasing availability it provides. There must be some way to do it right.
I have writen several post about Obamah on my blog, I like him. I hope he does all he says IF he is elected. He seems to have a heart for the poor and he seems to know God. I could be wrong.
I am the parent of an Adopted bi-racial son. I was arrested 4 times out side of abortion clinics in the late 80′s and early 90′s. I know of what I speak when I say Republican’s are all talk and talk is SO cheap!! If you are willing to call yourself pro-life you better be willing to adopt a child in foster care,a hard to place child or a child from a poor foreign nation, not wait around for a lilly white American. You can’t have it both ways. If we know good to do and don’t do it that is sin (James 4:17) you have to put action to your talk, Republican’s who scream “WE ARE PRO-LIFE” need to DO what is right or shut the heck up!!
Do not get me started!!
Yeah…I think that guy will say anything to get elected. It is easy to say you know God, it is another to act like it. Which God is he claiming anyways? No, I am not standing on my holy-high-hill and punishing people to hell…I just was wondering if he is claiming Christ or a different one…? He seems to be on the same popular bus as Oprah, it is convenient to proclaim the truth when people are behind you…(or listening) it is quite another to live it in your personal life.
i love my kristi applesauce.
Carole.
Really? You’re the ONLY ONE in history to adopt a bi-racial child? Whoa! NO republican has EVER done that, I’m sure! That’s really radical!
So you’re writing the law that no one can claim to be pro-life unless they adopt. Well, sorry, but there a whole lot of ways of giving of one’s self. I know a whole passel of Republicans, Pardner, and every one of them would give their life’s blood to back up what they believe.
And guess what? Talk is not just cheap, it’s FREE. But only because a whole passel of Americans are still, even at threat of being spit on by their own “countrymen”. And a lot of those Americans are Republicans.
In fact, I would go so far as to say even MORE than a passel. I would venture to estimate as much as a PLETHORA!
EDIT:
That passel up there of Americans are still willing to sacrifice their lives, even at the threat of… etc. etc.
Sorry, when I get ticked I tend to run off at the fingers.
Les,
I am a Republican, I have been on the front lines of the pro-life movement, I do know of what I speak.
Maybe you got so upset because I hit a nerve?
I say take the energy you spend defending the right to an Orphanages, the streets of your inner city, the widows house next store and do something to effect the hell they are living in.
NOT SAYING you don’t do that,It would be a shame for you to put more words in my mouth.
Les, I obviously offended you and for that I am sorry.
Carole:
Yes you hit a nerve. But no. MY bad. I get tired of people pissing on Christian Republicans and talking like they’re all a bunch of troglodytic imbeciles. I’m a “Republican” right now because the Democratic leadership at the moment couldn’t think their way out of a wet napkin. I think through my positions very carefully and I’m passionate about them. Here’s the one that always makes my blood boil — “I don’t know why all Christians have to be Republicans…” or some idiot thing like that. You can hear my teeth grinding when someone pulls that comment out of their butt.
So I totally over-reacted to your comment. WAY. ‘Cause when I think about it I agree with you. If you believe it, you should live like it.
I seem to have had a streak of stupidity this week. I just hope it ends at one week.