Comments on: Don’t Try And Change The World… http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/ Carlos Whittaker's Weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:29:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Patrick Murphy http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173749 Patrick Murphy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:44:12 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173749 oooo harsh i thought my post had not gotten through. no excuses...i stick by my double posting genius oooo harsh
i thought my post had not gotten through. no excuses…i stick by my double posting genius

]]> By: ryan http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173731 ryan Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:17:17 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173731 apparently re-posting is also good... ;) just kidding. apparently re-posting is also good… ;) just kidding.

]]> By: Patrick Murphy http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173690 Patrick Murphy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:30:59 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173690 Thinking is good. Re-thinking is also good. I am glad that you posted this Carlos. I am also glad that you got to meet someone that is really special to me. Thinking is good. Re-thinking is also good. I am glad that you posted this Carlos. I am also glad that you got to meet someone that is really special to me.

]]> By: Patrick Murphy http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173689 Patrick Murphy Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:29:11 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173689 Thinking is good. Re-thinking is also good. Thanks for posting this Carlos. I am glad you got to meet someone that is really special to me. Thinking is good. Re-thinking is also good. Thanks for posting this Carlos. I am glad you got to meet someone that is really special to me.

]]> By: Dioicio http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173636 Dioicio Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:45:16 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173636 I keep seeing "Christian" this and if we are to be "Christians" that.....No one has metioned anything about being a DISCIPLE. I Heart Revolution has mentioned a quote that goes "To be saved cost us nothing, To be a DISCIPLE cost us everything". Everyone around you claims christianity......We are called to be set-apart and not of this world, in a relevant fashion. If we look to our CREATOR for CREATIVITY then we will set the standard and not have to compete with the world while trying to immitate everything. Jesus didn't go around telling everyone he was the Messiah, everyone knew. How did everyone know? He lead by his actions and miracles and DISCIPLINE, not until a miracle or someone being curios did he say or mention that he is the Messiah. If we take on and lead as Jesus lead then everyone will see by example that the grass is greener on the other side, and they will come by flocks and heards. That is what will make us authentic...You can call it a culture, body of christ, or whatever man made name you want to call it. In the end the only words that matter are "Welcome good and Faithful servant, welcome to my kingdom". I keep seeing “Christian” this and if we are to be “Christians” that…..No one has metioned anything about being a DISCIPLE. I Heart Revolution has mentioned a quote that goes “To be saved cost us nothing, To be a DISCIPLE cost us everything”. Everyone around you claims christianity……We are called to be set-apart and not of this world, in a relevant fashion. If we look to our CREATOR for CREATIVITY then we will set the standard and not have to compete with the world while trying to immitate everything. Jesus didn’t go around telling everyone he was the Messiah, everyone knew. How did everyone know? He lead by his actions and miracles and DISCIPLINE, not until a miracle or someone being curios did he say or mention that he is the Messiah. If we take on and lead as Jesus lead then everyone will see by example that the grass is greener on the other side, and they will come by flocks and heards. That is what will make us authentic…You can call it a culture, body of christ, or whatever man made name you want to call it. In the end the only words that matter are “Welcome good and Faithful servant, welcome to my kingdom”.

]]> By: Carole Turner http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173628 Carole Turner Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:33:05 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173628 Yea, that comment is not true. We are called to change the world, one person at a time. We are called to love, spend everyday loving God and our neighbor, this is the greatest command according to Jesus. THAT will change the world. I'm with Shaun, the world "Culture" is so overused and "Relevant" that it's lost it's meaning. How do we change the world? Sponser a child, that gives them hope. Feed the homeless, that gives hope, adopt an orphan, that gives hope, that also shows US Jesus because they are some of the least of these (matthew 25) and always love, really love, like 1 cor. 13 says not like we see "culture" loving, and THAT will change the world. Yea, that comment is not true. We are called to change the world, one person at a time. We are called to love, spend everyday loving God and our neighbor, this is the greatest command according to Jesus. THAT will change the world.

I’m with Shaun, the world “Culture” is so overused and “Relevant” that it’s lost it’s meaning.

How do we change the world? Sponser a child, that gives them hope. Feed the homeless, that gives hope, adopt an orphan, that gives hope, that also shows US Jesus because they are some of the least of these (matthew 25) and always love, really love, like 1 cor. 13 says not like we see “culture” loving, and THAT will change the world.

]]> By: Chambers http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173626 Chambers Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:16:39 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173626 MLK...quite the man. Thanks for sharing that quote, that's awesome. MLK…quite the man. Thanks for sharing that quote, that’s awesome.

]]> By: Stevo28andGrowing http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173625 Stevo28andGrowing Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:13:17 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173625 As Christians, isn't our job simply to love thy neighbor? It seems like there are already so many "cultures" that Christians have created, from the old skool baptist culture to new skool "we're all super trendy Christians" culture. Sure, the new skool stuff is probably more aesthetically pleasing to non-Christians who may have been burned by previous Christian cultures, but who's to say that today's culture won't also burn people? IE - the not so trendy guy who's just trying to get connected but can't fit into the bubble of cook people that the new skool can create. If we all (myself included, because I'm not good at this) stopped and just loved those different from us, God would probably step in and do the rest. As Christians, isn’t our job simply to love thy neighbor? It seems like there are already so many “cultures” that Christians have created, from the old skool baptist culture to new skool “we’re all super trendy Christians” culture. Sure, the new skool stuff is probably more aesthetically pleasing to non-Christians who may have been burned by previous Christian cultures, but who’s to say that today’s culture won’t also burn people? IE – the not so trendy guy who’s just trying to get connected but can’t fit into the bubble of cook people that the new skool can create.

If we all (myself included, because I’m not good at this) stopped and just loved those different from us, God would probably step in and do the rest.

]]> By: S K http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173620 S K Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:44:33 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173620 Martin Luther King Jr., said to friend Andrew Young: Andy, I think the Good Samaritan is a great individual. I of course, like and respect the Good Samaritan….but I don’t want to be a Good Samaritan.” Dr. King continued, “…you see Andy, I am tired of picking up people along the Jericho Road. I am tired of seeing people battered and bruised and bloody, injured and jumped on, along the Jericho Roads of life. This road is dangerous. I don’t want to pick up anyone else, along this Jericho Road; I want to fix… the Jericho Road. I want to pave the Jericho Road, add street lights to the Jericho Road; make the Jericho Road safe (for passage) by everybody….” Martin Luther King Jr., said to friend Andrew Young:

Andy, I think the Good Samaritan is a great individual. I of course, like and respect the Good Samaritan….but I don’t want to be a Good Samaritan.” Dr. King continued, “…you see Andy, I am tired of picking up people along the Jericho Road. I am tired of seeing people battered and bruised and bloody, injured and jumped on, along the Jericho Roads of life. This road is dangerous. I don’t want to pick up anyone else, along this Jericho Road; I want to fix… the Jericho Road. I want to pave the Jericho Road, add street lights to the Jericho Road; make the Jericho Road safe (for passage) by everybody….”

]]> By: Los http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/02/dont-try-and-change-the-world/#comment-173611 Los Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:21:06 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4374#comment-173611 Great discussion. I think to <a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/blogs/jwalking" rel="nofollow">David's</a> point, we are called to do exactly what David is stating FIRST. I wonder though, where the line of the definition lies as to when we have achieved those things. Is it at that point that we engage into the devices that are reaching at a much faster pace than our local churches are? Great discussion.
I think to David’s point, we are called to do exactly what David is stating FIRST. I wonder though, where the line of the definition lies as to when we have achieved those things. Is it at that point that we engage into the devices that are reaching at a much faster pace than our local churches are?

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