Comments on: Pray For Revolution Church http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/ Carlos Whittaker's Weblog Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:10:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: ruthie o. unaegbu http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-186740 ruthie o. unaegbu Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:00:15 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-186740 I am attending school here in the US. I am from Canada. I just heard from my dad that my pastor did the exact same thing. He just left his wife and 4 kids for a woman with a husband and 3 kids. If he could do so wrong, what can be right? Devastating! I am attending school here in the US. I am from Canada. I just heard from my dad that my pastor did the exact same thing. He just left his wife and 4 kids for a woman with a husband and 3 kids. If he could do so wrong, what can be right? Devastating!

]]> By: Ed http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-185185 Ed Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:37:56 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-185185 While I can appreciate all the calls to prayer and support, at some point the church needs to get a sack and confront the predator. We should not continue the failed church policies of the past and send em packin' off to the next unsuspecting group, organization or church, but stop him in his tracks. Mr. Trotters last employer of record has a responsibility to pray for him and also to track him like a dog for the next several years and make every legal attempt to prevent him from spreading his poison and leaving devastated families in his wake. Our nations churches have been acting cowardly for years because we have not stopped these abuses of power. IMHO While I can appreciate all the calls to prayer and support, at some point the church needs to get a sack and confront the predator.
We should not continue the failed church policies of the past and send em packin’ off to the next unsuspecting group, organization or church, but stop him in his tracks.
Mr. Trotters last employer of record has a responsibility to pray for him and also to track him like a dog for the next several years and make every legal attempt to prevent him from spreading his poison and leaving devastated families in his wake.
Our nations churches have been acting cowardly for years because we have not stopped these abuses of power.

IMHO

]]> By: annalynn. http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-180499 annalynn. Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:01:38 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-180499 thanks for praying for us, and most especially for pastor dave and the trotter family. it's been devastating, but it's thru these times that i get excited to see what things God has in store for our church family... thanks everyone for your prayers. thanks for praying for us, and most especially for pastor dave and the trotter family. it’s been devastating, but it’s thru these times that i get excited to see what things God has in store for our church family…

thanks everyone for your prayers.

]]> By: anne jackson http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-180298 anne jackson Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:21:54 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-180298 if you want to read about the courageous tale of grace tunz mentions above just go to my site and search for "courageous tale of grace" if you want to read about the courageous tale of grace tunz mentions above just go to my site and search for “courageous tale of grace”

]]> By: RagamuffinTop http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-179624 RagamuffinTop Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:26:15 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-179624 Unfortunately the real problem isn't being addressed here and that is the institution we call Christian Churchdom continues to propagate and indoctrinate us into ministry lifestyles that result in this sickening type of event. Pushing staff and leaders for numbers and $ at the cost of peoples lives. I can see this is the example Christ himself set! NOT! Few Christian volunteers, leaders, elders, staff members or pastors are saying “Enough is enough, my boundaries are set! I will not spend the overtime in this ministry at the cost of my marriage or my children! Instead I would expect something more. Mentors, leaders, pastors, friends…where are you when I need you to tell me to take as much time as I need to ensure my house is in order?” Instead we crave leadership roles that make us look good. We lie to each other and say WERE NOT DAMAGED GOODS. We run like lemmings over the cliff of destruction because our pastors are so busy building, what they think is the kingdom. I will be praying for Laura, the kids and Dave…but realize, that this is the aftermath of one more bad example and frankly disgusting picture of Gods people not putting the simplicity of the two greatest commandments first… Love God and Love each other! Unfortunately the real problem isn’t being addressed here and that is the institution we call Christian Churchdom continues to propagate and indoctrinate us into ministry lifestyles that result in this sickening type of event. Pushing staff and leaders for numbers and $ at the cost of peoples lives. I can see this is the example Christ himself set! NOT!

Few Christian volunteers, leaders, elders, staff members or pastors are saying “Enough is enough, my boundaries are set! I will not spend the overtime in this ministry at the cost of my marriage or my children! Instead I would expect something more. Mentors, leaders, pastors, friends…where are you when I need you to tell me to take as much time as I need to ensure my house is in order?”

Instead we crave leadership roles that make us look good. We lie to each other and say WERE NOT DAMAGED GOODS. We run like lemmings over the cliff of destruction because our pastors are so busy building, what they think is the kingdom.

I will be praying for Laura, the kids and Dave…but realize, that this is the aftermath of one more bad example and frankly disgusting picture of Gods people not putting the simplicity of the two greatest commandments first… Love God and Love each other!

]]> By: Double-A http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-179407 Double-A Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:54:14 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-179407 When any of us think "That can't happen to me," the Great Deceiver has us right where he wants us... When any of us think “That can’t happen to me,” the Great Deceiver has us right where he wants us…

]]> By: April http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-179127 April Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:38:46 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-179127 Our church went through this several years ago. The family was able to work things out and in fact a couple of years ago, they renewed their wedding vows!! God is Good and He is faithful even when we fall. This situation strengthened our church in ways that probably would not have been possible otherwise. It caused all of us to realize we are not above sin and we need to be accountable to others. I am praying for restoration for all involved: families, and church members! Our church went through this several years ago. The family was able to work things out and in fact a couple of years ago, they renewed their wedding vows!! God is Good and He is faithful even when we fall.
This situation strengthened our church in ways that probably would not have been possible otherwise. It caused all of us to realize we are not above sin and we need to be accountable to others.
I am praying for restoration for all involved: families, and church members!

]]> By: Worshipfan http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-179096 Worshipfan Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:42:47 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-179096 Wow....that is sobering. And it can happen to ANYONE given the right set of circumstances and the right heart attitude. I'll be praying for that church and that family....God can turn anything around! Wow….that is sobering. And it can happen to ANYONE given the right set of circumstances and the right heart attitude. I’ll be praying for that church and that family….God can turn anything around!

]]> By: tunz http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-179092 tunz Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:32:27 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-179092 I started to refer people to Cindy Beale's blog from Ann Jackson's site but I see it is no longer available. Sometimes I feel people just need hope. Families can survive this, it is not too late. And I remind myself, this sin is no greater than my flavor of the day sin. I am praying for repentance and forgiveness for all involved. I started to refer people to Cindy Beale’s blog from Ann Jackson’s site but I see it is no longer available. Sometimes I feel people just need hope. Families can survive this, it is not too late. And I remind myself, this sin is no greater than my flavor of the day sin. I am praying for repentance and forgiveness for all involved.

]]> By: gbrad@mag http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/03/pray-for-revolution-church/#comment-179087 gbrad@mag Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:20:36 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4673#comment-179087 A couple of guys pray specifically for marriages @ Mag . . . I'll make sure they get this . . . I will pray . . . If he really knows the LORD nothing can pluck him out of GOD's hand . . . Yes Los a call to prayer and a crying out A couple of guys pray specifically for marriages @ Mag . . . I’ll make sure they get this . . . I will pray . . . If he really knows the LORD nothing can pluck him out of GOD’s hand . . . Yes Los a call to prayer and a crying out

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