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		<title>By: Invisible Fence</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/04/red-rover-red-rover-send-worship-talks-over/#comment-249689</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions!  now I need to go think of an answer... I&#039;ll be back and subscribing to the feed!</description>
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		<title>By: Invisible Fence</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/04/red-rover-red-rover-send-worship-talks-over/#comment-248645</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Fence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions!  now I need to go think of an answer... I&#039;ll be back and subscribing to the feed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions!  now I need to go think of an answer&#8230; I&#39;ll be back and subscribing to the feed!</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. To ascend the throne room...we are gathered with the Angels and the people who have gone before us on the Lord&#039;s Day!  What a priviledge...And I think worship is vital, but I really think Eucharist/Communion is the climax of it all.  Therein lies the mystery.  Its about HIM!  Who or what else do we get to call Holy, Holy, Holy.  What a priviledge we have on Sunday!

2. I think God uses us in spite of us...so yes.  Personally would I want it for a Lord&#039;s Day celebration, no...its about meeting Him that day.  I just think Sunday morning is set apart, but I would love to worship in that manner at some other time.  I was raised that way...I do have a soft spot for it.  I just see Sunday morning for a different focus...HIM.  

Such good questions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. To ascend the throne room&#8230;we are gathered with the Angels and the people who have gone before us on the Lord&#8217;s Day!  What a priviledge&#8230;And I think worship is vital, but I really think Eucharist/Communion is the climax of it all.  Therein lies the mystery.  Its about HIM!  Who or what else do we get to call Holy, Holy, Holy.  What a priviledge we have on Sunday!</p>
<p>2. I think God uses us in spite of us&#8230;so yes.  Personally would I want it for a Lord&#8217;s Day celebration, no&#8230;its about meeting Him that day.  I just think Sunday morning is set apart, but I would love to worship in that manner at some other time.  I was raised that way&#8230;I do have a soft spot for it.  I just see Sunday morning for a different focus&#8230;HIM.  </p>
<p>Such good questions!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. I think that many others have expressed my answer to the first question. There are simple, but powerful, truths found in the words people have expressed on this blog. Thanks for sharing them.
2. In regards to worship.....what a privilege to be able to sharpen one another and ask these important questions. The Lord looks at our hearts and I do believe that different churches are &quot;called&quot; to minister in different ways. How we invite God&#039;s people into His presence through song will also look very different. I think it is so important to remember that whatever lights we have or don&#039;t have...whatever style we present...it&#039;s just all about Him. If the rocks cry out...then I pretty much don&#039;t need anything more than a heart longing to worship my Savior. If the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead is alive in me and YOU...then we pretty much don&#039;t need anything more than the power of the Holy Spirit at work (hopefully) in and through us...drawing the lost, calling each name...and causing us to hunger for more of Him. Are the lights and the music and sound wrong? Of course not:) He loves us. If we invite him according to His word... there He will be in our midst. I believe that people can be saved from the first note played on a guitar. We don&#039;t need the &quot;stuff,&quot; we just need more of Him. Sometimes we try hard to create an &quot;environment&quot; for people through worship. Doesn&#039;t the Lord just want to exalt him....for wherever two or more gather in his name, there he is in our midst...just waiting for us to listen, to linger, and to leave filled and blessed.

It&#039;s awesome to have so much technology at your disposal.If the Lord is calling your church to worship with lights and visual art...then it sounds like you need to do it with everything you&#039;ve got! And so you are.
We all just need to be good stewards with what God has given to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I think that many others have expressed my answer to the first question. There are simple, but powerful, truths found in the words people have expressed on this blog. Thanks for sharing them.<br />
2. In regards to worship&#8230;..what a privilege to be able to sharpen one another and ask these important questions. The Lord looks at our hearts and I do believe that different churches are &#8220;called&#8221; to minister in different ways. How we invite God&#8217;s people into His presence through song will also look very different. I think it is so important to remember that whatever lights we have or don&#8217;t have&#8230;whatever style we present&#8230;it&#8217;s just all about Him. If the rocks cry out&#8230;then I pretty much don&#8217;t need anything more than a heart longing to worship my Savior. If the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead is alive in me and YOU&#8230;then we pretty much don&#8217;t need anything more than the power of the Holy Spirit at work (hopefully) in and through us&#8230;drawing the lost, calling each name&#8230;and causing us to hunger for more of Him. Are the lights and the music and sound wrong? Of course not:) He loves us. If we invite him according to His word&#8230; there He will be in our midst. I believe that people can be saved from the first note played on a guitar. We don&#8217;t need the &#8220;stuff,&#8221; we just need more of Him. Sometimes we try hard to create an &#8220;environment&#8221; for people through worship. Doesn&#8217;t the Lord just want to exalt him&#8230;.for wherever two or more gather in his name, there he is in our midst&#8230;just waiting for us to listen, to linger, and to leave filled and blessed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s awesome to have so much technology at your disposal.If the Lord is calling your church to worship with lights and visual art&#8230;then it sounds like you need to do it with everything you&#8217;ve got! And so you are.<br />
We all just need to be good stewards with what God has given to us.</p>
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		<title>By: BB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been wrestling with these sort of questions for sometime. As a worship leader, I identify a lot with some of what Anne wrote in her original blog post. It really messes with my head when people come up to me and say &quot;So, are we going to have good music this morning?&quot; or &quot;Your music meant so much to me today&quot;. I don&#039;t think that comments like these are inherently bad- I try not to read into them too much, but when you&#039;re working so hard to see people moved closer to God, you start to wonder if the culture you&#039;re creating is counterproductive to what God wants when you start hearing things like that. At this point, all I know to do is to make sure that my motives are staying true to helping move people closer to God and to let Him know that I&#039;m trying my best to see that happen. If I don&#039;t focus on that, I fear that I&#039;ll crumble under the enormity of it all.

As to the questions Los posses:

1. I think the book of Titus answers what the purpose of the Church is. Paul doesn&#039;t give a lot of answers as to how some of this should be worked out, but he makes it clear what churches should do. The thing that struck me the most as I read through it was that we should teach our people how to excel at doing good works. How to meet the urgent needs of others. The other thing that is stressed is to live humble, godly lives so that we have a good witness among the unbelievers around us. To live in a way that leaves no room for others to despise us. Paul says that these are the things that we should teach our people. It may seem over simplified, but I don&#039;t know of many churches who are just focusing on these things.

2. I absolutely believe that God can engage the hearts of people through all of the items Los mentions. God has engaged my heart through them and I know that He has in others as well. But I think that He can equally engage us without them. My fear is that we get people thinking that they can&#039;t connect with God without all of those things. I know that for me, I can start to have a hard time worshiping God without those things if I&#039;m not careful. Another fear of mine on this topic is that we try so hard to create a relevant environment for seekers that we remove the onus of evangelism from our people. I&#039;m not saying that we should throw away our &quot;invest and invite&quot; strategies, but I do think that we are producing a generation of Christians who have no idea how to personally share Christ with others because we&#039;ve taught them that their job is just to get people to church and we&#039;ll take care of the rest.

So, like I said, I wrestle with all of this, but I don&#039;t mean to put down any other church&#039;s methods. The last thing we need is to be throwing rocks at each other&#039;s methods. As long as Christ is your goal, then we&#039;re all on the same team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been wrestling with these sort of questions for sometime. As a worship leader, I identify a lot with some of what Anne wrote in her original blog post. It really messes with my head when people come up to me and say &#8220;So, are we going to have good music this morning?&#8221; or &#8220;Your music meant so much to me today&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think that comments like these are inherently bad- I try not to read into them too much, but when you&#8217;re working so hard to see people moved closer to God, you start to wonder if the culture you&#8217;re creating is counterproductive to what God wants when you start hearing things like that. At this point, all I know to do is to make sure that my motives are staying true to helping move people closer to God and to let Him know that I&#8217;m trying my best to see that happen. If I don&#8217;t focus on that, I fear that I&#8217;ll crumble under the enormity of it all.</p>
<p>As to the questions Los posses:</p>
<p>1. I think the book of Titus answers what the purpose of the Church is. Paul doesn&#8217;t give a lot of answers as to how some of this should be worked out, but he makes it clear what churches should do. The thing that struck me the most as I read through it was that we should teach our people how to excel at doing good works. How to meet the urgent needs of others. The other thing that is stressed is to live humble, godly lives so that we have a good witness among the unbelievers around us. To live in a way that leaves no room for others to despise us. Paul says that these are the things that we should teach our people. It may seem over simplified, but I don&#8217;t know of many churches who are just focusing on these things.</p>
<p>2. I absolutely believe that God can engage the hearts of people through all of the items Los mentions. God has engaged my heart through them and I know that He has in others as well. But I think that He can equally engage us without them. My fear is that we get people thinking that they can&#8217;t connect with God without all of those things. I know that for me, I can start to have a hard time worshiping God without those things if I&#8217;m not careful. Another fear of mine on this topic is that we try so hard to create a relevant environment for seekers that we remove the onus of evangelism from our people. I&#8217;m not saying that we should throw away our &#8220;invest and invite&#8221; strategies, but I do think that we are producing a generation of Christians who have no idea how to personally share Christ with others because we&#8217;ve taught them that their job is just to get people to church and we&#8217;ll take care of the rest.</p>
<p>So, like I said, I wrestle with all of this, but I don&#8217;t mean to put down any other church&#8217;s methods. The last thing we need is to be throwing rocks at each other&#8217;s methods. As long as Christ is your goal, then we&#8217;re all on the same team.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Los

This post has really made me think since I first read it Sunday night and since I can seem to shake it I decided I would post, sorry for the length.

In response to Number 1, God clearly desires that his followers gather in corporate worship &#039;WHERE TWO OR MORE ARE GATHERED...&quot;. Sunday morning at Church is a chance to commune not only with God but to gather in one of the few places, at least for me, that the cares of the outside world tend to disappear and I am able to focus on something completely different and much larger &amp; more important than me. While I am sure that many folks would say that I should find other time for that and I do, but it is absolutely the one time where no phone will ring, email arrive or a kid&#039;s scream and it is is precious to me.  Sunday also give those of us not called to full time ministry a chance to serve the Church and hopefully offer a vision of selfless service. 

On question 2, my heart has been laid bare more times by a video clip, performance art or a song that really captures the picture of Christ&#039;s love for us than by any other element in a worship service. I think that God works with the tools of the day, whether it was the hands of artist in the Middle Ages, the beautiful concerts of Mozart or Beethoven, or simply a church choir raising their voices in praise. I grew up attending traditional protestant churches throughout the South and I think one of the primary problems facing the local church is that it has failed to modernize and recognize that for many people the traditional piano and organ are a passe&#039; and that for many non-believers it is not just not getting it done. Instead these folks are turning away from the Church simply because they believe it has lost touch with modern times. Consequently, I believe that some churches are recognizing that this multi-media generation is in need of constant technological stimulation, Twitter anyone, and has decided to meet those needs in a worship environment that either sparks an interest in our heavenly father, furthers their relationship with him, or most importantly brings them into a relationship with Jesus Christ. I have seen this happen at Buckhead and look forward to what&#039;s next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Los</p>
<p>This post has really made me think since I first read it Sunday night and since I can seem to shake it I decided I would post, sorry for the length.</p>
<p>In response to Number 1, God clearly desires that his followers gather in corporate worship &#8216;WHERE TWO OR MORE ARE GATHERED&#8230;&#8221;. Sunday morning at Church is a chance to commune not only with God but to gather in one of the few places, at least for me, that the cares of the outside world tend to disappear and I am able to focus on something completely different and much larger &amp; more important than me. While I am sure that many folks would say that I should find other time for that and I do, but it is absolutely the one time where no phone will ring, email arrive or a kid&#8217;s scream and it is is precious to me.  Sunday also give those of us not called to full time ministry a chance to serve the Church and hopefully offer a vision of selfless service. </p>
<p>On question 2, my heart has been laid bare more times by a video clip, performance art or a song that really captures the picture of Christ&#8217;s love for us than by any other element in a worship service. I think that God works with the tools of the day, whether it was the hands of artist in the Middle Ages, the beautiful concerts of Mozart or Beethoven, or simply a church choir raising their voices in praise. I grew up attending traditional protestant churches throughout the South and I think one of the primary problems facing the local church is that it has failed to modernize and recognize that for many people the traditional piano and organ are a passe&#8217; and that for many non-believers it is not just not getting it done. Instead these folks are turning away from the Church simply because they believe it has lost touch with modern times. Consequently, I believe that some churches are recognizing that this multi-media generation is in need of constant technological stimulation, Twitter anyone, and has decided to meet those needs in a worship environment that either sparks an interest in our heavenly father, furthers their relationship with him, or most importantly brings them into a relationship with Jesus Christ. I have seen this happen at Buckhead and look forward to what&#8217;s next.</p>
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		<title>By: West</title>
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		<dc:creator>West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok...I&#039;m going with my own opinion here as I just don&#039;t have the time to read through all the responses that you and your dang popular blog get.  (I&#039;m not jealous)

1. be careful about being proud of what buckhead church is doing.  it&#039;s not that you&#039;re not doing great things...just be careful...I love you and what you do..don&#039;t want to see it get more important than everything else 

2. Weekend gatherings....well, to promote bonding and fellowship.  We are supposed to step out of our comfort zone and get to know people we have yet to meet. (right?)  We are to grow closer with God...Together

3.  What was that question again?  (scrolled up...got it) Yes, I think God can reach a person&#039;s heart through production, etc...  I played drums at and attended Crossroads Chruch in Corona back in &#039;03....then went to my current church and almost didn&#039;t go back because the music was so bad and I could NOT connect....I play drums at my church in hopes to help....when I feel I am not helping, I am done....not the point, but a comment.  There are those in a service who are distracted w/life and worries......that is merely part of our job, but is our responsibility all the same......help these souls release their worries and worship God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;I&#8217;m going with my own opinion here as I just don&#8217;t have the time to read through all the responses that you and your dang popular blog get.  (I&#8217;m not jealous)</p>
<p>1. be careful about being proud of what buckhead church is doing.  it&#8217;s not that you&#8217;re not doing great things&#8230;just be careful&#8230;I love you and what you do..don&#8217;t want to see it get more important than everything else </p>
<p>2. Weekend gatherings&#8230;.well, to promote bonding and fellowship.  We are supposed to step out of our comfort zone and get to know people we have yet to meet. (right?)  We are to grow closer with God&#8230;Together</p>
<p>3.  What was that question again?  (scrolled up&#8230;got it) Yes, I think God can reach a person&#8217;s heart through production, etc&#8230;  I played drums at and attended Crossroads Chruch in Corona back in &#8216;03&#8230;.then went to my current church and almost didn&#8217;t go back because the music was so bad and I could NOT connect&#8230;.I play drums at my church in hopes to help&#8230;.when I feel I am not helping, I am done&#8230;.not the point, but a comment.  There are those in a service who are distracted w/life and worries&#8230;&#8230;that is merely part of our job, but is our responsibility all the same&#8230;&#8230;help these souls release their worries and worship God.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Fillmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Fillmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The church sometimes &quot;tries&quot; to do it all, but I believe the original church was created for &quot;worship&quot;. I don&#039;t have the scriptures to back it up right this minute but I will try to post them again later.

The original church was a place where Believers would come in and worship, not the thousand other things that we sometimes try to accomplish in a 60 minute period.

It was a time to renew the spirit, strengthen the conviction to follow the teachings of Christ, and give the Believers the strength they needed to &quot;go out&quot;.

When we meet on Sunday morning we should be engaged in worship (in my opinion).

That doesn&#039;t mean that I don&#039;t think the church has other responsibilities, it does, but at other times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church sometimes &#8220;tries&#8221; to do it all, but I believe the original church was created for &#8220;worship&#8221;. I don&#8217;t have the scriptures to back it up right this minute but I will try to post them again later.</p>
<p>The original church was a place where Believers would come in and worship, not the thousand other things that we sometimes try to accomplish in a 60 minute period.</p>
<p>It was a time to renew the spirit, strengthen the conviction to follow the teachings of Christ, and give the Believers the strength they needed to &#8220;go out&#8221;.</p>
<p>When we meet on Sunday morning we should be engaged in worship (in my opinion).</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean that I don&#8217;t think the church has other responsibilities, it does, but at other times.</p>
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		<title>By: Los' brother's wife's brother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los' brother's wife's brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  To be brutally general, the weekend gathering should be a time when the attendee will be re-centered on Christ, encouraged, and sent back into the world to accomplish the call on thier individual life.  Unfortunately (this is the brutally general part), we live in a &#039;serve me&#039; culture, and expect to be catered to, rather than seek opportunities to serve.  If people show up on the weekend, and they don&#039;t allow what they do and hear to effect their life during the week, it is worthless.  

2.  In a perfect world, our Bible alone would suffice to induce powerful worship...it works in the 3rd world.  What would happen if Christians expressed their contentment, not only in the worship service, but also with their daily lives?  What if we were to forsake our McMansions and took over the trailer parks sharing with everyone that no one would have need?  I&#039;m a little tired of looking to the government to accomplish the Church&#039;s call to care for the poor...and at the same time, I write this from my McMansion on my laptop, etc, etc, etc.  I&#039;m discouraged that my faith will only stretch to the point that I&#039;m confortable...then I find excuses.  Screw comfort...live for Jesus.  I&#039;m working on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  To be brutally general, the weekend gathering should be a time when the attendee will be re-centered on Christ, encouraged, and sent back into the world to accomplish the call on thier individual life.  Unfortunately (this is the brutally general part), we live in a &#8217;serve me&#8217; culture, and expect to be catered to, rather than seek opportunities to serve.  If people show up on the weekend, and they don&#8217;t allow what they do and hear to effect their life during the week, it is worthless.  </p>
<p>2.  In a perfect world, our Bible alone would suffice to induce powerful worship&#8230;it works in the 3rd world.  What would happen if Christians expressed their contentment, not only in the worship service, but also with their daily lives?  What if we were to forsake our McMansions and took over the trailer parks sharing with everyone that no one would have need?  I&#8217;m a little tired of looking to the government to accomplish the Church&#8217;s call to care for the poor&#8230;and at the same time, I write this from my McMansion on my laptop, etc, etc, etc.  I&#8217;m discouraged that my faith will only stretch to the point that I&#8217;m confortable&#8230;then I find excuses.  Screw comfort&#8230;live for Jesus.  I&#8217;m working on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, when we look back at the new testament church, they were gathering in homes AND also preaching to the masses.  The first documented sermon of the N.T. church saw 3000 people saved in one day.  I am sure those 3000 were then encouraged and directed to move out and engage in a home church - which in my opinion is exactly what our modern day home groups are.

So that leads to the question - What is the weekend worship service for?

I believe it is a place for all to experience and connect.  To experience and connect with God, His children, and those that are seeking.  I don&#039;t believe one can come sit in a service and immediately jump out into a home group.  One must experience community first, before they will ever take on the challenge of sitting down in a small group of people they have never met. 

Small groups, or whatever you may call them, have statistically struggled in the US church, because we tend to lack genuine community in our weekend service.  When you look at the stats you will discover it is a rare church that has more than 35-40% of their church body actively engaged in a home group.  There is a bit of good news, in that we have seen a trend upward over the past couple years.  I believe most of that can be attributed to the massive push to establish and build genuine and authentic community by many of our churches.

So, what is the value of lights, camera, action, so to speak in our weekend service?  I believe it helps people connect.  The camera helps people to see the visual expression, inflection and movement of the pastor, worship leader etc.  It brings the environment of the large room to a much more personal level.  

Much of the lighting is essential to the camera and video quality.  Lighting also helps establish the atmosphere of the room.  With lighting I can build the atmosphere to a place where people engage and scream out the praises of God, or I can pull it back to a place where in that quite, still moment, the feeling of no one else around but you and God, the heart begins to melt and God is allowed, maybe for the first time, to speak to the individual.  In that moment, which I have seen countless times, brokenness comes and the bitterness of the heart slides off and newness springs forth.

I must also tell you that while production should never supersede the message...it must also never take a complacent seat in the car.  You have to ensure that lighting is timed correctly and that the quality is high.  Because the last thing needed in a moment like I described above is for a missed cue or program to run that flashes lights all over the room.   You have to use production and technology in a manner that reflects the mood and atmosphere of the moment.  You cannot allow for it to distract.

# 2 - I highly believe that a person connects to God uniquely in worship and music.  It is through this time that God showers His love onto the individual.  I know of no better way to engage God than through worship.  He is the ultimate and deserves nothing less than our devoted worship.  

The thing that I believe stands out to me most about God is that He is uniquely creative.  He created the heavens and the earth.  He created the beasts of the field, the birds of the air and the fish of the sea... and He created you and me.

In all of that knowledge, how can we wonder if God likes creative things?  He is the master of creativity.  I know that His hearts leaps when His creation steps out in creativity to share His love and reach those He wants to reach.  

Is it not unlike the proud moment in a fathers life, when he notices his son holding the fork the same way He does or putting his clothes on the same way he does etc.?

So to wonder if God can engage His people on a creative level or by a creative means..... is much like wondering if a car can really run on gas?

We were created by a hugely creative God, using highly creative means, and in all of that we cannot run from the creativity that is divinely embedded into each of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, when we look back at the new testament church, they were gathering in homes AND also preaching to the masses.  The first documented sermon of the N.T. church saw 3000 people saved in one day.  I am sure those 3000 were then encouraged and directed to move out and engage in a home church &#8211; which in my opinion is exactly what our modern day home groups are.</p>
<p>So that leads to the question &#8211; What is the weekend worship service for?</p>
<p>I believe it is a place for all to experience and connect.  To experience and connect with God, His children, and those that are seeking.  I don&#8217;t believe one can come sit in a service and immediately jump out into a home group.  One must experience community first, before they will ever take on the challenge of sitting down in a small group of people they have never met. </p>
<p>Small groups, or whatever you may call them, have statistically struggled in the US church, because we tend to lack genuine community in our weekend service.  When you look at the stats you will discover it is a rare church that has more than 35-40% of their church body actively engaged in a home group.  There is a bit of good news, in that we have seen a trend upward over the past couple years.  I believe most of that can be attributed to the massive push to establish and build genuine and authentic community by many of our churches.</p>
<p>So, what is the value of lights, camera, action, so to speak in our weekend service?  I believe it helps people connect.  The camera helps people to see the visual expression, inflection and movement of the pastor, worship leader etc.  It brings the environment of the large room to a much more personal level.  </p>
<p>Much of the lighting is essential to the camera and video quality.  Lighting also helps establish the atmosphere of the room.  With lighting I can build the atmosphere to a place where people engage and scream out the praises of God, or I can pull it back to a place where in that quite, still moment, the feeling of no one else around but you and God, the heart begins to melt and God is allowed, maybe for the first time, to speak to the individual.  In that moment, which I have seen countless times, brokenness comes and the bitterness of the heart slides off and newness springs forth.</p>
<p>I must also tell you that while production should never supersede the message&#8230;it must also never take a complacent seat in the car.  You have to ensure that lighting is timed correctly and that the quality is high.  Because the last thing needed in a moment like I described above is for a missed cue or program to run that flashes lights all over the room.   You have to use production and technology in a manner that reflects the mood and atmosphere of the moment.  You cannot allow for it to distract.</p>
<p># 2 &#8211; I highly believe that a person connects to God uniquely in worship and music.  It is through this time that God showers His love onto the individual.  I know of no better way to engage God than through worship.  He is the ultimate and deserves nothing less than our devoted worship.  </p>
<p>The thing that I believe stands out to me most about God is that He is uniquely creative.  He created the heavens and the earth.  He created the beasts of the field, the birds of the air and the fish of the sea&#8230; and He created you and me.</p>
<p>In all of that knowledge, how can we wonder if God likes creative things?  He is the master of creativity.  I know that His hearts leaps when His creation steps out in creativity to share His love and reach those He wants to reach.  </p>
<p>Is it not unlike the proud moment in a fathers life, when he notices his son holding the fork the same way He does or putting his clothes on the same way he does etc.?</p>
<p>So to wonder if God can engage His people on a creative level or by a creative means&#8230;.. is much like wondering if a car can really run on gas?</p>
<p>We were created by a hugely creative God, using highly creative means, and in all of that we cannot run from the creativity that is divinely embedded into each of us.</p>
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