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	<title>Comments on: Creative Chaos // 14</title>
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		<title>By: Angie</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-209653</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that idea!! I may have to use it for our high school ministry. Very cutting edge way to get across information!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that idea!! I may have to use it for our high school ministry. Very cutting edge way to get across information!! <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mike sessler</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-207310</link>
		<dc:creator>mike sessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea. I hate printing 1500 pieces of paper each week and picking up 1200 at the end of the night. I&#039;m pushing more fewer bullitens and more web. Also better a better announcement loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea. I hate printing 1500 pieces of paper each week and picking up 1200 at the end of the night. I&#8217;m pushing more fewer bullitens and more web. Also better a better announcement loop.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-206101</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a new visitor to your blog...Great idea! I am passing it on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a new visitor to your blog&#8230;Great idea! I am passing it on!</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-206014</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great idea!  Our church keeps trying out new ways to make our bulletin more &quot;simple.&quot;  It still has A LOT of information and inserts.  Super annoying.  I love this idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea!  Our church keeps trying out new ways to make our bulletin more &#8220;simple.&#8221;  It still has A LOT of information and inserts.  Super annoying.  I love this idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal Renaud</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-205876</link>
		<dc:creator>Crystal Renaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very cool card idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very cool card idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-205786</link>
		<dc:creator>Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my 2 cents.  I love the idea.  I hate the idea of wasting resources.  I hate the idea of pouring money into unnecessary things...however, I think our church (&amp; I love our church) is in a dangerous spot of alienating people.  I take my dad into consideration.  He visits occasionally, loves Andy&#039;s messages, the music is a little too loud for him &amp; it certainly is not what draws his heart into the presence of God, he misses the smallness &amp; he doesn&#039;t own a computer...there are acutally many 50 &amp; 60 somethings out there who don&#039;t.  Are we alienating a group of people by assuming that all have access to a computer to get the info?  IS there another way to get the info out to the masses knowing that all have access to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my 2 cents.  I love the idea.  I hate the idea of wasting resources.  I hate the idea of pouring money into unnecessary things&#8230;however, I think our church (&amp; I love our church) is in a dangerous spot of alienating people.  I take my dad into consideration.  He visits occasionally, loves Andy&#8217;s messages, the music is a little too loud for him &amp; it certainly is not what draws his heart into the presence of God, he misses the smallness &amp; he doesn&#8217;t own a computer&#8230;there are acutally many 50 &amp; 60 somethings out there who don&#8217;t.  Are we alienating a group of people by assuming that all have access to a computer to get the info?  IS there another way to get the info out to the masses knowing that all have access to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-205699</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, I definitely agree that they need to be intentional. I think NPM does a good job though. I think by trying to keep in only next steps helps... but with ministries I know there is a lot of compromise about what goes in and what doesn&#039;t.... but I totally agree that it can often be streamlined. And also, don&#039;t worry, I know your not trying to get me out of a job :-) I just wanted to put my two cents in ... I just don&#039;t want to throw the baby out with the bath water. I think they do serve a purpose, but I think leaning on making them more of a creative wow factor, even if it sacrifices function, can be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, I definitely agree that they need to be intentional. I think NPM does a good job though. I think by trying to keep in only next steps helps&#8230; but with ministries I know there is a lot of compromise about what goes in and what doesn&#8217;t&#8230;. but I totally agree that it can often be streamlined. And also, don&#8217;t worry, I know your not trying to get me out of a job <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I just wanted to put my two cents in &#8230; I just don&#8217;t want to throw the baby out with the bath water. I think they do serve a purpose, but I think leaning on making them more of a creative wow factor, even if it sacrifices function, can be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Los</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike.  I think they can too.  But in 12 years of working in bulletin communication driven churches, I don&#039;t think that they accomplish the goal at hand.  If they are used to communicate a wealth of information, I think they fail.  If they are used to advertise a single event (ie. series, ect.) then I think they work.  I just think at that point they stop being called &quot;bulletins&quot; and have more of a rave card purpose behind them.  
Don&#039;t think I&#039;m trying to put you out of work or anything!!!  ;)  But after seeing how many of these things get placed in a trash can after church services the last 12 years, and how many emails we get from first timers asking the same thing that was placed in their hands before the service...there has to be a better way of delivering information.  
Thats all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike.  I think they can too.  But in 12 years of working in bulletin communication driven churches, I don&#8217;t think that they accomplish the goal at hand.  If they are used to communicate a wealth of information, I think they fail.  If they are used to advertise a single event (ie. series, ect.) then I think they work.  I just think at that point they stop being called &#8220;bulletins&#8221; and have more of a rave card purpose behind them.<br />
Don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m trying to put you out of work or anything!!!  <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   But after seeing how many of these things get placed in a trash can after church services the last 12 years, and how many emails we get from first timers asking the same thing that was placed in their hands before the service&#8230;there has to be a better way of delivering information.<br />
Thats all.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the idea. I make the bulletins for my church as well... (AKA Buckhead Church, North Point, and Browns Bridge :-)   I think it is a great thing to do.. I loved the idea when I heard it... it keeps things fresh. I think that is key. I think, though,  that if bulletins are done well they can really add a ton to the look and feel of the series. To be totally honest, the bulletins are what got me really bought into North Point in the first place. How intentional they were about them really pulled me in.  I think that&#039;s what people should focus on with them... don&#039;t always do the same things.   ---- Also I think there are some people who do benefit from the info. Specifically newcomers who can benefit from being fully explained even over communicated about next steps available to them. Especially at a large church like ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the idea. I make the bulletins for my church as well&#8230; (AKA Buckhead Church, North Point, and Browns Bridge <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />    I think it is a great thing to do.. I loved the idea when I heard it&#8230; it keeps things fresh. I think that is key. I think, though,  that if bulletins are done well they can really add a ton to the look and feel of the series. To be totally honest, the bulletins are what got me really bought into North Point in the first place. How intentional they were about them really pulled me in.  I think that&#8217;s what people should focus on with them&#8230; don&#8217;t always do the same things.   &#8212;- Also I think there are some people who do benefit from the info. Specifically newcomers who can benefit from being fully explained even over communicated about next steps available to them. Especially at a large church like ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica B</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/06/creative-chaos-14/#comment-205592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took creativity and community and mixed them up.
check it out;
http://community.marchenstudios.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took creativity and community and mixed them up.<br />
check it out;<br />
<a href="http://community.marchenstudios.com" rel="nofollow">http://community.marchenstudios.com</a></p>
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