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	<title>Comments on: I Hate It When My Worship Leader&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Meghan</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-347079</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the worship leader sings their set and then leaves for the rest of the service and doesnt listen to the message.....cause we all know once the concerts over we might as well just go home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the worship leader sings their set and then leaves for the rest of the service and doesnt listen to the message&#8230;..cause we all know once the concerts over we might as well just go home.</p>
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		<title>By: Meghan</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-347076</link>
		<dc:creator>Meghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When every line they speak came from someone elses mouth, ministry, website or right off the back of some christain t-shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When every line they speak came from someone elses mouth, ministry, website or right off the back of some christain t-shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-319394</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny that shaking hands is your least favorite part...its one of my favorites.

Typos are not usually the fault of the worship leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that shaking hands is your least favorite part&#8230;its one of my favorites.</p>
<p>Typos are not usually the fault of the worship leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Coupland</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-314473</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Coupland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
I came across this via facebook.  Do you think its constructive or Godly to ask people to do this?  Worship leaders are human and all bring something different - people will be irked by different things.  Why not ask worship leaders what bugs them about congregational response??  Actually come to think of it why are people busy being a critique when they should clearly be worshipping.  I&#039;m not a worship leader, but this blog has irked me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I came across this via facebook.  Do you think its constructive or Godly to ask people to do this?  Worship leaders are human and all bring something different &#8211; people will be irked by different things.  Why not ask worship leaders what bugs them about congregational response??  Actually come to think of it why are people busy being a critique when they should clearly be worshipping.  I&#8217;m not a worship leader, but this blog has irked me!</p>
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		<title>By: Macmood</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-310817</link>
		<dc:creator>Macmood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all that put comments on here to defend yourself this isnt for you this is for people to vent on why they hate the things that worship leaders do so go find a site where people PRAISE you for how good of a worship leader you are.  Christians are people too and they sometimes dislike things so get a grip cuz you aint all that.  I used to be the drummer at my church and my wife was the worship leader and she was pretty good and people loved here and hated her.  You can never please a human being, people will always hate you for what you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all that put comments on here to defend yourself this isnt for you this is for people to vent on why they hate the things that worship leaders do so go find a site where people PRAISE you for how good of a worship leader you are.  Christians are people too and they sometimes dislike things so get a grip cuz you aint all that.  I used to be the drummer at my church and my wife was the worship leader and she was pretty good and people loved here and hated her.  You can never please a human being, people will always hate you for what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-310097</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a bit sick of the rock star worship. I don&#039;t listen to worship, or go to worship concerts to see the musicians.. I go there to see God, and I think that should be the focus of every worship leader. To make God the star of the show. Tom Cruise take of your cool shades, please get off the stage, and stop trying to block God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a bit sick of the rock star worship. I don&#8217;t listen to worship, or go to worship concerts to see the musicians.. I go there to see God, and I think that should be the focus of every worship leader. To make God the star of the show. Tom Cruise take of your cool shades, please get off the stage, and stop trying to block God.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cuss</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-302691</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Cuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow - lots of venom here, but &#039;Los, I guess you kind of set it up that way this time.  

I feel for worship leaders now days - they have a tough job in a rapidly changing musical environment and as Christians get exponentially choosier.  
Surely we&#039;d agree that  worship  is primarily about God, but many folks talk about worship like they are rating a new itunes song.  &quot;The worship didn&#039;t do it for me today.&quot;  Do they have any idea what they are saying there?  

Sure, style and taste is important, but as long as our culture offers freedom of worship and is generally healthy and affluent, our people will continue to approach Sunday morning by rating it.   If worship &quot;didn&#039;t do it for me&quot; then it says a lot more about my heart than anything else.  

BTW, I&#039;m a lead Pastor, and I think our worship leader is a great guy and highly skilled, who does what he can to help people engage with God through music.   And no, none of us think worship is exclusively singing on Sunday, but singing on Sunday IS a subset of worship.  


This Sunday, one of our global partners from Kenya will be preaching.  The music won&#039;t be remotely what he is used to (we&#039;re generally pretty rock and roll, but this Sunday we&#039;re all bluegrass baby!  No better way to honor the African man by playing the whitest possible music!)  Anyway, I guarantee Fred will be passionately worshipping and would be confused by much of the critique in these comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow &#8211; lots of venom here, but &#8216;Los, I guess you kind of set it up that way this time.  </p>
<p>I feel for worship leaders now days &#8211; they have a tough job in a rapidly changing musical environment and as Christians get exponentially choosier.<br />
Surely we&#8217;d agree that  worship  is primarily about God, but many folks talk about worship like they are rating a new itunes song.  &#8220;The worship didn&#8217;t do it for me today.&#8221;  Do they have any idea what they are saying there?  </p>
<p>Sure, style and taste is important, but as long as our culture offers freedom of worship and is generally healthy and affluent, our people will continue to approach Sunday morning by rating it.   If worship &#8220;didn&#8217;t do it for me&#8221; then it says a lot more about my heart than anything else.  </p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m a lead Pastor, and I think our worship leader is a great guy and highly skilled, who does what he can to help people engage with God through music.   And no, none of us think worship is exclusively singing on Sunday, but singing on Sunday IS a subset of worship.  </p>
<p>This Sunday, one of our global partners from Kenya will be preaching.  The music won&#8217;t be remotely what he is used to (we&#8217;re generally pretty rock and roll, but this Sunday we&#8217;re all bluegrass baby!  No better way to honor the African man by playing the whitest possible music!)  Anyway, I guarantee Fred will be passionately worshipping and would be confused by much of the critique in these comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-302440</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and Ambers most recent comment was also pretty spot on...</description>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-302439</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started reading this thinking it would be some humourous &quot;twitter&quot; style mini blog, or perhaps lead on to where Ragamuffinsoul comes out with some little story if wisdom about what worship really is.

In fact I got only about one 5th of the way through and was just disgusted... Typo&#039;s in words? Singers fogetting words? Asking people to raise their hands? I don&#039;t even want to go into why these are WAY off the mark on things to complain about. I think, unfortunately, this little forum has reflected a massive attitude in the western church towards worship, and it&#039;s sick. Seriously. Get a grip guys, Heidi Reed&#039;s comments back in July 2008 summed it up pretty succinctly. This makes me sad at CHRISTIANS shallowness...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started reading this thinking it would be some humourous &#8220;twitter&#8221; style mini blog, or perhaps lead on to where Ragamuffinsoul comes out with some little story if wisdom about what worship really is.</p>
<p>In fact I got only about one 5th of the way through and was just disgusted&#8230; Typo&#8217;s in words? Singers fogetting words? Asking people to raise their hands? I don&#8217;t even want to go into why these are WAY off the mark on things to complain about. I think, unfortunately, this little forum has reflected a massive attitude in the western church towards worship, and it&#8217;s sick. Seriously. Get a grip guys, Heidi Reed&#8217;s comments back in July 2008 summed it up pretty succinctly. This makes me sad at CHRISTIANS shallowness&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elizagar</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/07/i-hate-it-when-my-worship-leader/#comment-275685</link>
		<dc:creator>elizagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES you probably are the only one who hates this song--your congregation, worship team or musicians are probably doing a lousy job of it. </description>
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