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	<title>Comments on: Donald Miller Shall Pray&#8230;Amen</title>
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		<title>By: dee dee</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-miller-shall-prayamen/#comment-226790</link>
		<dc:creator>dee dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually think it took guts to say yes. to know the perceptions that people have and to choose not to be defined or ruled by them shows real courage. my question is this: had miller prayed at the rnc, would this post or these comments even be in existence right now? 
as i re-read this comment i can&#039;t help but chuckle. knowing the perceptions that people will have after reading it. trying to decide if it&#039;s a good idea to post it. and then re-reading and realizing that i now have to. ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually think it took guts to say yes. to know the perceptions that people have and to choose not to be defined or ruled by them shows real courage. my question is this: had miller prayed at the rnc, would this post or these comments even be in existence right now?<br />
as i re-read this comment i can&#8217;t help but chuckle. knowing the perceptions that people will have after reading it. trying to decide if it&#8217;s a good idea to post it. and then re-reading and realizing that i now have to. ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-miller-shall-prayamen/#comment-226556</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are ethics and conflicts of interest associated with a lot of careers. If I were caught stripping, I would lose my state teaching license. Lots of careers, including newspaper publishers and ministers, have limitations on some of the opinions they can act on. God isn&#039;t limited by that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are ethics and conflicts of interest associated with a lot of careers. If I were caught stripping, I would lose my state teaching license. Lots of careers, including newspaper publishers and ministers, have limitations on some of the opinions they can act on. God isn&#8217;t limited by that.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-miller-shall-prayamen/#comment-226546</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave wins. God works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave wins. God works.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-miller-shall-prayamen/#comment-226527</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>99.9%?  Really?  That&#039;s probably more than the Democrats believe about themselves in their own pub.  Interesting.

I vote for Strang.  I don&#039;t think it will be difficult to find someone to pray considering it was an &quot;Interfaith&quot; representation.  I agree that a Christian should represent and offer a sincere prayer, but when it comes right down to it, they would be just a pawn in a big &quot;look how spiritual, tolerant, and open we are to faith&quot; game.  Complete BS.  Strang chose not to play and I commend him for it.

Both conventions are a big show and I doubt the sincerity of either.  However, we should still show up to both with the authentic banner of Christ.

If Obama wants to display his Christian faith in action HE should have offered up a prayer. But I guess that would have hurt his credibility with his supporters. 

Personally if I had to make the decision, I would choose to pray at both conventions or not at all.  I don&#039;t believe in partisan prayer used for partisan means, which will ultimately divide people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99.9%?  Really?  That&#8217;s probably more than the Democrats believe about themselves in their own pub.  Interesting.</p>
<p>I vote for Strang.  I don&#8217;t think it will be difficult to find someone to pray considering it was an &#8220;Interfaith&#8221; representation.  I agree that a Christian should represent and offer a sincere prayer, but when it comes right down to it, they would be just a pawn in a big &#8220;look how spiritual, tolerant, and open we are to faith&#8221; game.  Complete BS.  Strang chose not to play and I commend him for it.</p>
<p>Both conventions are a big show and I doubt the sincerity of either.  However, we should still show up to both with the authentic banner of Christ.</p>
<p>If Obama wants to display his Christian faith in action HE should have offered up a prayer. But I guess that would have hurt his credibility with his supporters. </p>
<p>Personally if I had to make the decision, I would choose to pray at both conventions or not at all.  I don&#8217;t believe in partisan prayer used for partisan means, which will ultimately divide people.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-miller-shall-prayamen/#comment-226525</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patrick
very well said
and that viewpoint or worldview is what i beleive is what is missing most in the church today.
accepting substitutes or symbols in place of reality, indeed leads us down a path that encourages pleasing man over God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patrick<br />
very well said<br />
and that viewpoint or worldview is what i beleive is what is missing most in the church today.<br />
accepting substitutes or symbols in place of reality, indeed leads us down a path that encourages pleasing man over God.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Loyd</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-miller-shall-prayamen/#comment-226524</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Loyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you don&#039;t represent Buckhead Church but Christ Jesus himself.  Christ IS the church.  Buckhead is but wood, steel and concrete and is but a hollow, shallow space if not filled with people who will take every opportunity to worship Jesus, praise Jesus and share Jesus with the world.  To some, it may have been but a simple prayer fit into the program but it was more than that...it was an opportunity to share our love and faith with a nation. It was an opportunity to pray for our nation and our leaders. Who knows, the simple mention of the word, Jesus during that prayer may have caused a lost soul to get down on his/her knees and accept Christ as their personal Savior. We don&#039;t know how people are being convicted at any given time.

I work for Child Protective Services, and I represent the state of GA. but if someone I am working with asks me to pray for them, I do it.  At that moment, I am a representative of Christ and it is a divine opportunity to minister to that family.  If the state found out and I was fired, so be it.  I worship a mighty Lord and He will provide. I am concerned only about pleasing Him at that moment.  

Truthfully, if you were called to give that prayer, I believe you would have.  I believe you, and most other disciples of Christ would have recognized the importance of being used by God in that moment, however small or brief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you don&#8217;t represent Buckhead Church but Christ Jesus himself.  Christ IS the church.  Buckhead is but wood, steel and concrete and is but a hollow, shallow space if not filled with people who will take every opportunity to worship Jesus, praise Jesus and share Jesus with the world.  To some, it may have been but a simple prayer fit into the program but it was more than that&#8230;it was an opportunity to share our love and faith with a nation. It was an opportunity to pray for our nation and our leaders. Who knows, the simple mention of the word, Jesus during that prayer may have caused a lost soul to get down on his/her knees and accept Christ as their personal Savior. We don&#8217;t know how people are being convicted at any given time.</p>
<p>I work for Child Protective Services, and I represent the state of GA. but if someone I am working with asks me to pray for them, I do it.  At that moment, I am a representative of Christ and it is a divine opportunity to minister to that family.  If the state found out and I was fired, so be it.  I worship a mighty Lord and He will provide. I am concerned only about pleasing Him at that moment.  </p>
<p>Truthfully, if you were called to give that prayer, I believe you would have.  I believe you, and most other disciples of Christ would have recognized the importance of being used by God in that moment, however small or brief.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with praying for somebody of a different political persuasion, but that&#039;s not the issue.  The Democrats pick who gives the prayer based on political calculations designed to draw in more voters.  Strang just didn&#039;t want to be a pawn in that game, and I salute him for it.  If I remember correctly, he was going to do it, until he realized it would be televised.  It serves a different purpose entirely when it&#039;s televised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with praying for somebody of a different political persuasion, but that&#8217;s not the issue.  The Democrats pick who gives the prayer based on political calculations designed to draw in more voters.  Strang just didn&#8217;t want to be a pawn in that game, and I salute him for it.  If I remember correctly, he was going to do it, until he realized it would be televised.  It serves a different purpose entirely when it&#8217;s televised.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie said it. I respect all the opinions here, too. I think both guys did what they needed to do (Strang and Miller)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie said it. I respect all the opinions here, too. I think both guys did what they needed to do (Strang and Miller)</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am learning that in the end it&#039;s really not important what we think we ought to do but what the Holy Spirit thinks we ought to do...Leaning not toward our own understanding, but letting the Lord direct our path...Sometimes He asks us to do things that maybe don&#039;t make sense at first glance or won&#039;t make us popular with one group or another. I respect each man for his decision. And I hope that they not only thought about it with their minds but also with their Spirits tuned into the One who knows the Way. 

I hope and pray that Miller&#039;s genuine faith has an impact on anyone who might need a touch from their Father who loves them with an audacious, crazy love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am learning that in the end it&#8217;s really not important what we think we ought to do but what the Holy Spirit thinks we ought to do&#8230;Leaning not toward our own understanding, but letting the Lord direct our path&#8230;Sometimes He asks us to do things that maybe don&#8217;t make sense at first glance or won&#8217;t make us popular with one group or another. I respect each man for his decision. And I hope that they not only thought about it with their minds but also with their Spirits tuned into the One who knows the Way. </p>
<p>I hope and pray that Miller&#8217;s genuine faith has an impact on anyone who might need a touch from their Father who loves them with an audacious, crazy love.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Miller&#039;s prayer is on his own website.   www.donaldmillerwords.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Miller&#8217;s prayer is on his own website.   <a href="http://www.donaldmillerwords.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.donaldmillerwords.com</a></p>
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