Comments on: Donald Miller’s Democratic Convention Prayer Video http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/ Carlos Whittaker's Weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:05:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: swt http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-239791 swt Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:13:28 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-239791 Jesus didn't die to save us from injustice. Jesus died to save us from the JUSTICE of God's wrath against our sinful nature that is due to us. Those are two different things, and two different gospels, which Paul said we should be aware of in the last days. Jesus didn’t die to save us from injustice.

Jesus died to save us from the JUSTICE of God’s wrath against our sinful nature that is due to us.

Those are two different things, and two different gospels, which Paul said we should be aware of in the last days.

]]> By: Taylor http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226461 Taylor Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:24:10 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226461 I'm intrigued that so may people are ticked off by the "injustice" comment. Jesus' death saves us from a lot of things. If those of us who claim to be his followers truly follow his example, then "injustice" is absolutely one of them. Jesus fought injustice with his life and teachings to a point that the unjust killed him. Then he rose...kind of sticking it to injustice again (and, of course, doing so much more). The average Christian's unwillingness to fight injustice–or even be disturbed by it–is what makes me wonder what gospel people are reading, rather than Don's prayer. Sure, it sounded like political pandering at places, but I sincerely believe that, no matter what you think the solutions are, we really should be concerned with and be prayerfully considering every issue he mentioned. I truly believe that the cross isn't just about heaven and hell. It's about life and death. Life and death includes NOW. I’m intrigued that so may people are ticked off by the “injustice” comment.

Jesus’ death saves us from a lot of things. If those of us who claim to be his followers truly follow his example, then “injustice” is absolutely one of them. Jesus fought injustice with his life and teachings to a point that the unjust killed him. Then he rose…kind of sticking it to injustice again (and, of course, doing so much more).

The average Christian’s unwillingness to fight injustice–or even be disturbed by it–is what makes me wonder what gospel people are reading, rather than Don’s prayer. Sure, it sounded like political pandering at places, but I sincerely believe that, no matter what you think the solutions are, we really should be concerned with and be prayerfully considering every issue he mentioned.

I truly believe that the cross isn’t just about heaven and hell. It’s about life and death. Life and death includes NOW.

]]> By: Tstaires http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226392 Tstaires Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:53:48 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226392 to quote Amy Storm: "If my husband dies, I’m marrying Donald Miller. Is that inappropriate?" To that I say: ...if my wife dies I'm marrying Donald Miller...is that inappropriate? j/k, but Donald Miller rocks my face off! to quote Amy Storm:
“If my husband dies, I’m marrying Donald Miller.

Is that inappropriate?”

To that I say:
…if my wife dies I’m marrying Donald Miller…is that inappropriate?

j/k, but Donald Miller rocks my face off!

]]> By: CMarkle http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226381 CMarkle Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:20:43 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226381 Kyle and GID are right on. You may like what this man had to say, but it isn't the truth. Jesus didn't give his life against the forces of injustice, he laid down his life to take on himself the JUST (not injust) wrath and punishment of a holy God for the sin which we have perpetrated against him. So the prayer may sound nice and all but it doesn't even make sense, it's way off the point of the Gospel and it makes me wonder if Don Miller even knows the Jesus in who's name he is praying? Kyle and GID are right on. You may like what this man had to say, but it isn’t the truth. Jesus didn’t give his life against the forces of injustice, he laid down his life to take on himself the JUST (not injust) wrath and punishment of a holy God for the sin which we have perpetrated against him.

So the prayer may sound nice and all but it doesn’t even make sense, it’s way off the point of the Gospel and it makes me wonder if Don Miller even knows the Jesus in who’s name he is praying?

]]> By: ryan http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226296 ryan Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:16:54 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226296 i love don miller, but it's amazing to me that we are all congratulating HIM about a prayer. sounds like a speech to me. it appears it was meant for humans to hear, not not for worship and adoration towards to God. that may not have been his intent, i can't judge that. i'm only saying what it sounded like. we're all guilty of this, though. <a href="www.downtownblogs.com" rel="nofollow">downtownblogs</a> i love don miller, but it’s amazing to me that we are all congratulating HIM about a prayer. sounds like a speech to me. it appears it was meant for humans to hear, not not for worship and adoration towards to God. that may not have been his intent, i can’t judge that. i’m only saying what it sounded like.

we’re all guilty of this, though.

downtownblogs

]]> By: Mike http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226292 Mike Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:00:00 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226292 As someone elsewhere has commented, it pretty fascinating <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2008/08/donald-millers-dnc-prayer.html" rel="nofollow">how different the take is</a> in different corners of the Christian family. As someone elsewhere has commented, it pretty fascinating how different the take is in different corners of the Christian family.

]]> By: >Lightplague http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226171 >Lightplague Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:16:07 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226171 Prager!! Prager!!

]]> By: Nathan http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226144 Nathan Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:31:22 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226144 Should have listened to Prager on this today. He was hot about this prayer. He felt Don was taking God's name in vain. It did sound more like a political speech than a prayer. It took a political agenda and said it was God's agenda. Not that this is not something you may firmly believe, but in reality is it something God believes. What are the "Forces of Injustice"? Is that what Christ died for? Maybe, I am just not sure what they are. If by Forces of injustice you mean sin then sure, but if by that you mean some don't have health care then I am not sure I am tracking with you. We are commanded to care for those in need. By us caring does that mean we make everyone have to give? Where do I fail? How have I failed? It is easy to pray a prayer like this one at the exclusion of individual responsibility. BTW loved Blue like jazz. Peace Nathan Should have listened to Prager on this today. He was hot about this prayer. He felt Don was taking God’s name in vain. It did sound more like a political speech than a prayer. It took a political agenda and said it was God’s agenda. Not that this is not something you may firmly believe, but in reality is it something God believes. What are the “Forces of Injustice”? Is that what Christ died for? Maybe, I am just not sure what they are. If by Forces of injustice you mean sin then sure, but if by that you mean some don’t have health care then I am not sure I am tracking with you. We are commanded to care for those in need. By us caring does that mean we make everyone have to give? Where do I fail? How have I failed? It is easy to pray a prayer like this one at the exclusion of individual responsibility.

BTW loved Blue like jazz.
Peace
Nathan

]]> By: Lana http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226142 Lana Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:27:23 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226142 glad i wasn't the only one thinking this -- but isn't it BECAUSE of God's justice that demanded the sacrifice of His precious Son? yes, I think that's what the Word says. i guess i do sorta get what he was meaning, in a demo-sycophant sort of way. and dang, he's looked good! glad i wasn’t the only one thinking this —
but isn’t it BECAUSE of God’s justice that demanded the sacrifice of His precious Son? yes, I think that’s what the Word says.

i guess i do sorta get what he was meaning, in a demo-sycophant sort of way.

and dang, he’s looked good!

]]> By: brent(inWorship) http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/08/donald-millers-democratic-convention-prayer-video/#comment-226140 brent(inWorship) Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:50:42 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=5750#comment-226140 "may God use the prayer of don miller to shape our nation." Or at least to fund health care, pay teachers better. Sorry, I had to...peace.... :) “may God use the prayer of don miller to shape our nation.”

Or at least to fund health care, pay teachers better.

Sorry, I had to…peace…. :)

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