RagamuffinTop 12 // Losiah Keeps Hoggin The Camera

Posted on 23. Aug, 2008 by loswhit in Fat Ragamuffin

OK. Here it is. Time to bring it not sing it.
Simple to join.
1. You must have a measurable goal.
2. You must place a photo or video on your blog each weekend and give us the scoop on how you did.
3. You must link back here so that the readers of your blog get to see how the rest of us are failing or succeeding.
4. You fill out the linky thing below and then people can get to your blog from my front page and we can cheer each other on.
Got it?
OK.
Ready…
PAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My right knee is is massive pain.
I explain in the video below.
And if you think my Korean kid is cute,
He gives you lovin at the end.

So there you have it.
Any doctors or therapists in the house?
Like this IT Band issue could literally halt my marathon training.
I can’t do another run like that.
Check in…

RagamuffinTops Unite.
Los

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Neil Cowley

23. Aug, 2008

Dude! is this your first serious training? the rule is there’s hurt and there’s pain - when you get pain you stop!

What you need is a chiropractor’s office that specializes in or at least deals with sports and or serious injuries like car crashes. They will have a supervising chiro, massage therapist, electro stim, and OT/PT on staff. You NEED to see them before the day is out!!! They’ll get you massaged out and setup with a stretching+PT routine. They’ll be able to distinguish between a repetitive stress injury, and be able to straighten out any spinal and muscular imbalances that are likely what’s bringing this on. They’ll understand that you want to keep training and will be able to tell you that a bike will work, swimming would be best or how to keep up your base while dealing with this.

An average doctor won’t care, or will just tell you to rest it out.
Justin Dean

23. Aug, 2008

Los,
The same thing happened to me when I was training for my last fight. My Doc said that I needed to stretch out my hips better…who knew?

What happens is that your t-band in your hip gets tight and then puts incredible pressure on the outside of your knee.

Ice it like mad and stretch out the outside of your hips really really well!

It is also really important that you are warming up really well before you run. So warm up, stretch really well, then take it at a comfortable pace.
Toby @ WTLF

23. Aug, 2008

Hey dude awesome job on the run. Let me know when you get the gel shots.
Forgot to weigh-in this morning, but will in the AM. I’m feelin success this week! Of course, I felt that way the past 2 weeks and was disappointed.
Man, I was thinking, “what Innovative Technology” is he blaming his run on. HA! Obviously, I have no medial help for ya there, but you should be commended for slowing down and cutting it short. Some would have let the ego take over and really injured themselves.
Yes, that kid of yours is growing on me. Too cute!
Daniel Hoover

23. Aug, 2008

Hey man,
The same thing happened on my first Marathon, one month before the race! My IT band flared up on my knee, it would always hit me at 6-7 miles. I went to a sports med doc and he gave me a prescription to a physical therapist for a couple of treatments. Really… you can find some great stretches online for the IT band. Probably the best thing is to stop running for a couple of weeks, it won’t kill your training, stretch it for about 30 min it twice a day and ice it twice a day. I also wore an ace wrap on it on my runs, it may have helped who knows. I started back running a couple of weeks before the marathon and finished it well with no pain. Also… Yoga, Yoga! It really helps head off this kind of thing. Just once or twice a week will keep you limber and your muscles lengthened.
bryan allain

23. Aug, 2008

Los,

my wife trained for a marathon and never had IT Band issues. She ran Philly last November and halfway thru it started hurting. She finished…which was amazing…but could barely walk afterwards and couldn’t get back into running for months.

BUT…the good news is she is running again. She has found stretches that she does before and after runs that really help. You Gotta stretch that thing hard-core before and after! Like someone above said, the stretch feels like it’s stretching the band near the hip, even though the pain is usually felt near the knee. It has made all the difference.

She is running a half-marathon next month and training is going well.Rest Ice Compression Elevation for a few days, stretch is every day, and ease back into it. listen to your body and don’t push through IT Band pain! that’s probably what the doc will tell you…so save the money and spend it on those jellybeans with electrolytes.

bryan
Jennifer Harris

23. Aug, 2008

I agree with Brian, keep doing the RICE and stretching thing, and if that doesn’t work bypass the doc and go straight to a physical therapist. I may be biased because I’m a PT student, but they would definitely be able to help you out.
Maigh

23. Aug, 2008

What they said. I had the same issue and it’s exactly what halted my previously semi-impressive running habit. If you don’t RICE and you don’t get help, you’re going to do permanent damage.

If I see you tomorrow I tell you about a couple of the stretches the PT showed me/put me on.
DougLake

23. Aug, 2008

Dude! Spend the $15 bucks to see the Doc. As you know the greatest enemy of the marathon … injury!

Hang in there!
Tina

23. Aug, 2008

dude, you’ve got some hairy toes!
haemin

23. Aug, 2008

more losiah pls! what a cutie
Kevin Womack

23. Aug, 2008

Carlos,

Try buying a foam rolling pad at gym supplies store. It’s a cylinder of hard foam that’s about four feet long and about eight inches in diameter. What you do is roll on your side on top of it. Your body weight presses you down onto it and you roll from your knee up to your hip on each leg (the length of your IT band).

It’s excruciating when you start, but ease your way into it and it will stretch your IT band better than anything else. I’m a cyclist and this stretch is the only reason I’m still able to ride as my IT band issues were completely messing up my kneecap tracking and causing all kinds of other havoc.

Hope it helps!
Tyler

23. Aug, 2008

Don’t see a doctor, it didn’t help me. I had to stop running but when I tried to pound through it I did streches using a roller (can’t remember to call it). Lay on your side and put most of your weight on your leg which is on the roller and roll along the side of your thigh. Do this for both legs. Then do stretches to that stretch the outside of your legs.
Tyler

23. Aug, 2008

When I say don’t see a docter, I mean see a physical therapist or someone who knows stuff about that. Luckily my wife did.
Tymm

23. Aug, 2008

Yeah - ITB stuff sucks. A buddy of mine was taken out by this dirty little monkey. I think he now does all the stretching as mentioned above after visiting a sports doc - as well as wearing a strap for it - check this one out:

https://secure.cho-pat.com/products/product.php?product_type=27

Yo - I am running my first full in November - had a 16 mile long run today - would love to run with you guys sometime - let me know - I am usually out there all alone…
Kristi

23. Aug, 2008

I am a mental health counselor (specifically a play therapist, i.e. children’s counselor), but I don’t think that’s the therapist type you’re asking for. But maybe it’s exactly what you need. I’m just sayin’.
Donnie

24. Aug, 2008

Los - First time, long time. I am a doctor of physical therapy and a certified athletic trainer. Here is what I would suggest:
- ice with good compression the outside aspect of the knee 3x/day for 20 min each time. Swelling is the enemy - when it hangs around in the knee it shuts down the quad muscles pretty quickly.
- as someone else said, buy a $15 foam roller and go at the outside and front aspect of the your thigh (from the area just below the bony part of your hip to the area just above the bony part of your knee). Do this for 2-3 min, 2x/day. You can see video of how to ‘roll’ the tight at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJLxruO3su0&feature=related
- If you are not getting any relief with this after several days, you really need to go see a physical therapist. Going to an MD is not good at this point. They would either prescribe a drug or injection - very premature at this point in time. There are a host of issues that can lead to an IT band issue - treating those issues vs. the symptom (IT band pain) could be key here.
I was such a geek in school that I set up a clinical of mine in Atlanta just so I could go to 722 and Northpoint (went to school in Indiana) so I know the medical community fairly well in ATL. You need a PT who practices manual therapy - Alan Grodin is nationally known for manual therapy. The locations of his practices are:
http://sovereignrehab.com/locations.asp

Lastly, do not run through this pain. Your description suggests this could get worse. If you can’t walk pain free, don’t think about running!
Liza's Eyeview

24. Aug, 2008

I hope your pain is subsiding. Glad to see there are some suggestions in the comment section for you.

I too had some pain in my knees and thigh muscles and so I topped running for a week (maybe 2 weeks) - that explains my lack of post for 2 weeks. I found out that my shoes is way too old and has no more padding to help support (not to mention it was a walking shoes not a running shoes). So my friend who runs marathon suggested that I get a better shoes before running again. I ordered the good running shoes online with the help of my running friend and it arrived yesterday!

Anyway, just keeping in touch. I pray you get well.

And kast but not the least - YOUR SON IS SO CUTE!
Dave ©

24. Aug, 2008

Just think, Los…shave off an hour from your time and you, too, could be an olympic hero!!! Sure, you’d have to finish 11.5 miles MORE in an hour LESS but, hey…those guys are UN.REAL.

Keep it up, man. You are inspiring a bunch of us to get in shape even if we aren’t all participating in your challenge.
Tanis Holdeman

24. Aug, 2008

Los,
My husband is a chiropractor and treats injuries like this everyday. He does a technique called ART- Active Release Technique and it is a soft tissue treatment for overuse injuries. He has miracle hands, (I am a fan but for you the key is there are other people who practice this technique in your area that could help you. You can go to http://www.activerelease.com and click on find a provider. I would only see a man as this takes alot of hand strength esp. when the problem is on the legs. I would see a provider that has the most experience and has the most certifications (upper ext, lower ext, spine, nerve entrapements, etc) If anyone has had experience with this they can comment on it as well. The foam roller also does really work well, my husband recommends that all the time. Hope you get well soon! Oh yeah and I agree with eveyone else MDs will only tell you to take a med and rest.
Jesse

25. Aug, 2008

Dude, this has nothig to do with your training, but kudos anyway. I love how you straight up threw the ball and told Losiah to go get it….like he’s a dog playing fetch or something. That is just funny at 8:30 in the morning I guess.
tim

25. Aug, 2008

I agree about the need of a Chiropractor. I am one, but cant help you hands on because I am in the I.E. Here are a couple thoughts…
1.stretch often: 5 times/day 10-15 second holds each time.
2.keep at it: dont stop running, just take it easy.
3.ice like you are trying to cool the gates of hell! the best way is with ice massage (use an ice-cube, or some form of direct ice application) and dig in there…it will hurt, but you only need 5 minutes a couple times a day.
4. get to a chiro that can balance you out, assess your gait patterns, do soft tissue work, and get you back in the game ASAP.
that’s a start!
enjoy, and keep at it!
Russ

25. Aug, 2008

First week of Marathon Training for my wife and me. Was tough, but exhilarating at the same time. We’re doing a 28 week schedule.
Adam

27. Aug, 2008

All I wanna know is, what’s with the retro pepsi machine in the background?

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