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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Know. First Time</title>
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		<title>By: Rhi</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-228115</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah man. i love that movie. i&#039;m gonna have to go watch it now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah man. i love that movie. i&#8217;m gonna have to go watch it now!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed from AUS</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-228057</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed from AUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m learning that planning and structure needs to go hand in hand with heart and passion.  The people I serve through leadership need to know and see my heart and passion for worship in order to understand and want to follow our plans and structures.(http://andrewedwards.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/planning-structure-vs-heart-passion/)

I&#039;m also pondering the question &quot;What is the purpose of a church service?&quot; Is it to primarly worship God, or to hear the Word, or to Fellowship, learn, grow etc? What level of importance should be placed on the elements that make up a church service? Is the Word more important than the &#039;singing time&#039;, what about fellowship and service?

Carlos i&#039;d love this to be a post question to see what other people are thinking about the purpose of a church service!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m learning that planning and structure needs to go hand in hand with heart and passion.  The people I serve through leadership need to know and see my heart and passion for worship in order to understand and want to follow our plans and structures.(<a href="http://andrewedwards.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/planning-structure-vs-heart-passion/" rel="nofollow">http://andrewedwards.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/planning-structure-vs-heart-passion/</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also pondering the question &#8220;What is the purpose of a church service?&#8221; Is it to primarly worship God, or to hear the Word, or to Fellowship, learn, grow etc? What level of importance should be placed on the elements that make up a church service? Is the Word more important than the &#8216;singing time&#8217;, what about fellowship and service?</p>
<p>Carlos i&#8217;d love this to be a post question to see what other people are thinking about the purpose of a church service!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruthie</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227992</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you have a passion it seeps out in whatever you do or say.  I knew a guy whose passion was evangelism.  No matter what he preached on or talked about he would find a way to bring in his love for evangelism.  I don&#039;t even think he did it consciously it was just what was in his heart.  My passion is different than his but everytime I heard him speak he lead me to want to share Jesus a little more and more effectively.

As a leader my passions can movitvate and inspire others.  When I am not passionate I think people feel it.  I want my leaders to respect my passions and inspire me with theirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have a passion it seeps out in whatever you do or say.  I knew a guy whose passion was evangelism.  No matter what he preached on or talked about he would find a way to bring in his love for evangelism.  I don&#8217;t even think he did it consciously it was just what was in his heart.  My passion is different than his but everytime I heard him speak he lead me to want to share Jesus a little more and more effectively.</p>
<p>As a leader my passions can movitvate and inspire others.  When I am not passionate I think people feel it.  I want my leaders to respect my passions and inspire me with theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227931</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post and a great reminder to go big.  I am chewing on the lesson of &quot;wow i never thought that would happen&quot;.  It seems like good leaders have a sense about them where they don&#039;t get &quot;caught&quot; off guard.  but then people are... well, people and they&#039;ll surprise you.  how does a leader respond when we have those moments of &quot;wow I never thought that would happen&quot;... good or bad.  i plan on writing some more about it once i dig through it some more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post and a great reminder to go big.  I am chewing on the lesson of &#8220;wow i never thought that would happen&#8221;.  It seems like good leaders have a sense about them where they don&#8217;t get &#8220;caught&#8221; off guard.  but then people are&#8230; well, people and they&#8217;ll surprise you.  how does a leader respond when we have those moments of &#8220;wow I never thought that would happen&#8221;&#8230; good or bad.  i plan on writing some more about it once i dig through it some more.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227923</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much my attitude/mood effects those around me and who I am leading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much my attitude/mood effects those around me and who I am leading.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Summers</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227897</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Summers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That leadership and friendship aren&#039;t always compatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That leadership and friendship aren&#8217;t always compatible.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Fillmer</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227892</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Fillmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That really has to be a great feeling to serve in the manner you are able to, great to hear you are still passionate about your job... wax on... wax off :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That really has to be a great feeling to serve in the manner you are able to, great to hear you are still passionate about your job&#8230; wax on&#8230; wax off <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: janowen</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227887</link>
		<dc:creator>janowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That God will do the work in my own heart FIRST then I must lead out of that. Live it, then lead it. Henri Nouwen said something along the lines of &quot;It is foolishness to think that a man can lead people out of the desert that has never been there before.&quot; Our own spiritual journey prepares us for the work God is doing in the body we are leading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That God will do the work in my own heart FIRST then I must lead out of that. Live it, then lead it. Henri Nouwen said something along the lines of &#8220;It is foolishness to think that a man can lead people out of the desert that has never been there before.&#8221; Our own spiritual journey prepares us for the work God is doing in the body we are leading.</p>
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		<title>By: Brody</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227884</link>
		<dc:creator>Brody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too Heather...</description>
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		<title>By: AdamF</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/09/dont-know-first-time/#comment-227883</link>
		<dc:creator>AdamF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a NPM partner church, we&#039;re encouraged to not just copy, but to take transferable principles, make them local, and shift when needed.  I love how we&#039;re encouraged to take risks even when (or because) things have worked in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a NPM partner church, we&#8217;re encouraged to not just copy, but to take transferable principles, make them local, and shift when needed.  I love how we&#8217;re encouraged to take risks even when (or because) things have worked in the past.</p>
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