Comments on: Signs of a Lukewarm Worship Leader http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/ Carlos Whittaker's Weblog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:51:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: RTHORNE http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-354107 RTHORNE Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:25:50 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-354107 YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL SET YOU FREE! GO: http://web.me.com/rthorne2/Site_2/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY!.html YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL SET YOU FREE!

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]]> By: ncochrane1 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345694 ncochrane1 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:43:21 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345694 Walks off stage and asks everyone to evaluate their offering without thinking to ask God what He thought of your offering. Walks off stage and asks everyone to evaluate their offering without thinking to ask God what He thought of your offering.

]]> By: Nicole http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345648 Nicole Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:00:45 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345648 Thank you, thank you, thank you. A QUESTION to the experienced leaders out there: I'm the "back-up" worship leader at our small church -- not a vocational ministry, and nothing I studied for or planned on! :) God's teaching me as I go. Your postings re: writing music intrigue me & I would love your advice. I began hearing songs at about dawn -- like 5 a.m.-ish when I'm half asleep/half awake -- several years ago. In the last year, it has begun happening more frequently. Almost every early morning as I am half-asleep/half-awake, trying to will myself awake, I hear music. I didn't realize that these songs might be something God wanted to communicate to others...that maybe there was a responsibility or calling to get them down & submit them to my leader/s? Reality though? What I hear far exceeds my ability to write on staff paper or even sing into a voice recorder when I'm half-asleep. But since God isn't dependent on my abilities, out of obedience, I started taking a voice recorder to bed with me. When it happens, if I'm awake enough to realize it, I try to resist the desire to go back to sleep...but roll over & grab the recorder instead, to try to sing what I'm hearing. Even if I can't get down everything I hear, minimally, I can write those one-line melodies on staff paper -- and I have a good friend who is excellent with chords/arrangements. What else would you recommend to me in responding to whatever God is doing here? I feel very unprepared -- like God is putting something in my hands & I'm staring at it going, "I have no idea what to do with this, Lord." I'm willing to take a class or whatever people recommend for being better prepared. Blessings to you from Minneapolis, Minnesota. (Sorry this was so long, but I don't know who to get advice from on this on my end of the world!) Thank you, thank you, thank you.

A QUESTION to the experienced leaders out there: I’m the “back-up” worship leader at our small church — not a vocational ministry, and nothing I studied for or planned on! :) God’s teaching me as I go.

Your postings re: writing music intrigue me & I would love your advice.

I began hearing songs at about dawn — like 5 a.m.-ish when I’m half asleep/half awake — several years ago. In the last year, it has begun happening more frequently.

Almost every early morning as I am half-asleep/half-awake, trying to will myself awake, I hear music.

I didn’t realize that these songs might be something God wanted to communicate to others…that maybe there was a responsibility or calling to get them down & submit them to my leader/s?

Reality though? What I hear far exceeds my ability to write on staff paper or even sing into a voice recorder when I’m half-asleep.

But since God isn’t dependent on my abilities, out of obedience, I started taking a voice recorder to bed with me. When it happens, if I’m awake enough to realize it, I try to resist the desire to go back to sleep…but roll over & grab the recorder instead, to try to sing what I’m hearing.

Even if I can’t get down everything I hear, minimally, I can write those one-line melodies on staff paper — and I have a good friend who is excellent with chords/arrangements.

What else would you recommend to me in responding to whatever God is doing here?

I feel very unprepared — like God is putting something in my hands & I’m staring at it going, “I have no idea what to do with this, Lord.” I’m willing to take a class or whatever people recommend for being better prepared.

Blessings to you from Minneapolis, Minnesota. (Sorry this was so long, but I don’t know who to get advice from on this on my end of the world!)

]]> By: Nathan G. http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345586 Nathan G. Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:40:48 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345586 ...will be the first ones to come up with some new ones regarding this post because they feel they need to try and convince themselves they are not the very thing they will write here. guilty. …will be the first ones to come up with some new ones regarding this post because they feel they need to try and convince themselves they are not the very thing they will write here.

guilty.

]]> By: Robert L. http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345538 Robert L. Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:45:47 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345538 musictheory.net finalemusic.com musictheory.net
finalemusic.com

]]> By: Robert L. http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345535 Robert L. Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:44:52 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345535 @Chris Day: If absence of sheet music is a holdup for musicians on your team you can help them out. Learn basic music theory for free at: and also download a sheet music writer at God bless as you push your knowledge and skills as a Worship Leader :) Ecc. 9:10, col. 3:23, 1Cor. 10:31. @Chris Day: If absence of sheet music is a holdup for musicians on your team you can help them out. Learn basic music theory for free at: and also download a sheet music writer at God bless as you push your knowledge and skills as a Worship Leader :) Ecc. 9:10, col. 3:23, 1Cor. 10:31.

]]> By: Lindsay http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345526 Lindsay Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:19:32 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345526 Writing songs... Being what I consider pretty young to have the job that I do, I find that many, MANY people my age, the "up and coming" worship leaders feel compelled to write songs because that's what they see worship leaders do. I have struggled against my own fleshy desires to write for the sake of having a new song-- not for my congregation, which is a very under-developed group of worshipers. ** Luke warm worship leaders don't have the spiritual tenacity to wait on God, but want people to worship their way, their time. Writing songs… Being what I consider pretty young to have the job that I do, I find that many, MANY people my age, the “up and coming” worship leaders feel compelled to write songs because that’s what they see worship leaders do. I have struggled against my own fleshy desires to write for the sake of having a new song– not for my congregation, which is a very under-developed group of worshipers.

** Luke warm worship leaders don’t have the spiritual tenacity to wait on God, but want people to worship their way, their time.

]]> By: David http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345524 David Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:16:35 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345524 A lot of these point are true, but we need to be careful not to cast judgement on worship leaders! Yes, they do have leadership responsibilities, and yes they need to be held to a higher standard but worship leaders are prone to mistakes just as mush as any of us. What if instead using frustration toward our worship leaders, that we reach out to them and ask them if every thing's alright? Most worship leaders that hurt people are usually hurting themselves, and its important to reach out to them before making the assumption that there selfish rock-stars. A lot of these point are true, but we need to be careful not to cast judgement on worship leaders! Yes, they do have leadership responsibilities, and yes they need to be held to a higher standard but worship leaders are prone to mistakes just as mush as any of us. What if instead using frustration toward our worship leaders, that we reach out to them and ask them if every thing’s alright?

Most worship leaders that hurt people are usually hurting themselves, and its important to reach out to them before making the assumption that there selfish rock-stars.

]]> By: Nicki http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345523 Nicki Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:15:31 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345523 How about they don't make the music/song 'their own'. AKA they're more concerned about it being played how they hear it on the radio vs. prayerfully leading worship. B/c often sermon writers don't get everything out of their own head. They're pulling from scripture, from other preachers, quoting other people etc. How about they don’t make the music/song ‘their own’. AKA they’re more concerned about it being played how they hear it on the radio vs. prayerfully leading worship.

B/c often sermon writers don’t get everything out of their own head. They’re pulling from scripture, from other preachers, quoting other people etc.

]]> By: loswhit http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345504 loswhit Wed, 24 Feb 2010 21:34:02 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2008/12/signs-of-a-lukewarm-worship-leader/#comment-345504 Yup. These are just mine. Yup. These are just mine.

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