Comments on: Should adults or students be leading students in worship and why? http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/ Carlos Whittaker's Weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:05:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Nicky http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-521975 Nicky Tue, 17 Jan 2012 19:12:44 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-521975 I have to disagree with you just slightly. I don't think that an established worship leader is required. I'm a high school senior and lead our student band at my church. I have also see two other before succeed with very minimal supervision and input from an "established worship leader." I conduct all the rehearsals myself and schedule everything. Our Youth Music Director is on hand of course, and gives his input when I ask him, but for the most part he just hangs around incase something goes wrong with the equipment. I see where you're coming from, but I've also experienced an "established worship leader" completely taking control and it is a mess. I feel that God will call the right people into the right positions and for us to truly worship we can't have an adult hovering over us. I have to disagree with you just slightly. I don’t think that an established worship leader is required. I’m a high school senior and lead our student band at my church. I have also see two other before succeed with very minimal supervision and input from an “established worship leader.” I conduct all the rehearsals myself and schedule everything. Our Youth Music Director is on hand of course, and gives his input when I ask him, but for the most part he just hangs around incase something goes wrong with the equipment. I see where you’re coming from, but I’ve also experienced an “established worship leader” completely taking control and it is a mess. I feel that God will call the right people into the right positions and for us to truly worship we can’t have an adult hovering over us.

]]> By: Grace from Sarawak http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-293787 Grace from Sarawak Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:40:31 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-293787 YES! Student should be given that opportunity to lead the congregation for worship. God is not bothered with age whether young or old, He looks into the heart of a man. A 16 year old might have the heart that God is after than a 46 year old.. YES! Student should be given that opportunity to lead the congregation for worship. God is not bothered with age whether young or old, He looks into the heart of a man. A 16 year old might have the heart that God is after than a 46 year old..

]]> By: takiniteasy112 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-293509 takiniteasy112 Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:11:46 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-293509 its all about mentors, whoever is leading/replacing themselves,has been mentored and needs to mentor. im 26yrs old and i just got mentored by a 17yr semi-trained student vocalist on what it meant to lead worship last night and she never said a word to me.i believe its important to always have a heart thats open to God's direction, whether its in who should be leading your student ministry service or your adult service. it all boils down to effectively transmitting an authentic faith in Christ,as well as drawing out the authentic worshiper in all of us. if you cant do that then it really doesnt matter who is leading. its all about mentors, whoever is leading/replacing themselves,has been mentored and needs to mentor. im 26yrs old and i just got mentored by a 17yr semi-trained student vocalist on what it meant to lead worship last night and she never said a word to me.i believe its important to always have a heart thats open to God's direction, whether its in who should be leading your student ministry service or your adult service. it all boils down to effectively transmitting an authentic faith in Christ,as well as drawing out the authentic worshiper in all of us. if you cant do that then it really doesnt matter who is leading.

]]> By: Tyson http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-292393 Tyson Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:24:53 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-292393 Agreed with your comments Carlos. I started leading worship when I was about 16 in the youth group and has no doubt given me the experience that I have needed to be the worship leader I am today some ten years later. Agreed with your comments Carlos. I started leading worship when I was about 16 in the youth group and has no doubt given me the experience that I have needed to be the worship leader I am today some ten years later.

]]> By: RGsmith21 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-292176 RGsmith21 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:34:57 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-292176 Who cares! Can a three year old lead a thirty-three year old, or a 103 year old lead a three year old? To me, these are not the questions. If the heart is full and if a person can connect with people in order to lead them collectively to praise God, lament our condition, and be in wonder of the great and mysterious God we serve then why are we concerned with their age? Let's be honest, the reason we don't do it is because we just don't value training them up. It's a whole lot easier and takes less risk to just let the accomplished and mature do the work. However, if you get a couple of adults to pour into one or two or many young people and they'll be able to lead anyone to the throne of Grace. It's just a matter of what we value as leaders, and has little to do with their age or the age of the congregation they are leading. Who cares! Can a three year old lead a thirty-three year old, or a 103 year old lead a three year old? To me, these are not the questions.

If the heart is full and if a person can connect with people in order to lead them collectively to praise God, lament our condition, and be in wonder of the great and mysterious God we serve then why are we concerned with their age?

Let's be honest, the reason we don't do it is because we just don't value training them up. It's a whole lot easier and takes less risk to just let the accomplished and mature do the work.

However, if you get a couple of adults to pour into one or two or many young people and they'll be able to lead anyone to the throne of Grace. It's just a matter of what we value as leaders, and has little to do with their age or the age of the congregation they are leading.

]]> By: Russ Hutto http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-292078 Russ Hutto Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:35:54 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-292078 I think the operative word in the question is LEAD. If a student can then by all means they should. At the same time, I'm pretty much not in favor of no adult leadership or interaction. Students NEED to be loved, led, and equipped by adults, period. In fact, over the years I believe I'm growing more and more in favor of having generational worship as opposed to age-specific worship. But that might be just because I'm getting old up here in my 30s. I think the operative word in the question is LEAD. If a student can then by all means they should. At the same time, I'm pretty much not in favor of no adult leadership or interaction. Students NEED to be loved, led, and equipped by adults, period. In fact, over the years I believe I'm growing more and more in favor of having generational worship as opposed to age-specific worship. But that might be just because I'm getting old up here in my 30s.

]]> By: Billy http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-292072 Billy Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:30:06 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-292072 If God has gifted a student to lead then it's our responsibility to help them develop their gift...at our church we let them lead. If God has gifted a student to lead then it's our responsibility to help them develop their gift…at our church we let them lead.

]]> By: David Mehrle http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-292038 David Mehrle Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:01:59 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-292038 you may want to check out the Old Testament and see how many of them where qualified to lead. Yet, God worked through them and created several movements in the way that he needed them to happen. Are we asking a student to lead the church in this conversation, No. We are asking if students can lead and participate in leading others in worship and the answer is, Yes. you may want to check out the Old Testament and see how many of them where qualified to lead. Yet, God worked through them and created several movements in the way that he needed them to happen. Are we asking a student to lead the church in this conversation, No. We are asking if students can lead and participate in leading others in worship and the answer is, Yes.

]]> By: David Mehrle http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-292035 David Mehrle Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:53:37 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-292035 I am not sure that they are rare as much as we are not pouring into them. Our systems are not set up to train and lead students into this role. I lead a student ministry where we have five different leaders and have graduated several others. I would put them up against a lot of people who have been doing it for a while. I am not sure that they are rare as much as we are not pouring into them. Our systems are not set up to train and lead students into this role.

I lead a student ministry where we have five different leaders and have graduated several others. I would put them up against a lot of people who have been doing it for a while.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/who-should-be-leading-students-in-worship-and-why-adults-or-students/#comment-291965 Anonymous Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:49:01 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=8407#comment-291965 Is a kid qualified to lead the church? Probably not. Is a kid qualified to lead the church? Probably not.

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