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		<title>By: loswhit</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/worship-leader-of-cover-band-singer/#comment-315023</link>
		<dc:creator>loswhit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good point!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/worship-leader-of-cover-band-singer/#comment-315011</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot tell that somebody is intimate with the Lord judging on how she tries to portray herself to the people. GOd looks at the heart, He is the Judge and the only one who can judge of every man&#039;s motive. You can say that someone is good because he tries to portray himself good, but you can&#039;t actually tell what is really on the inside. :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot tell that somebody is intimate with the Lord judging on how she tries to portray herself to the people. GOd looks at the heart, He is the Judge and the only one who can judge of every man&#8217;s motive. You can say that someone is good because he tries to portray himself good, but you can&#8217;t actually tell what is really on the inside. <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Worship Leader or Cover Band Singer? &#171; Robert Glenn Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worship Leader or Cover Band Singer? &#171; Robert Glenn Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that is headed in the wrong one. Now go be Jesus and show how He has changed your life offstage. Then maybe they’ll believe you when you sing about Him on stage. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that is headed in the wrong one. Now go be Jesus and show how He has changed your life offstage. Then maybe they’ll believe you when you sing about Him on stage. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key word is &quot;leader&quot;...A leader will have willing followers right? 
The leader is forever working out salvation through grace like all the rest of us. Granted, if their personal experience comes from a cover band, they have a lot of room for growth and the challenges that playing / singing worship before others brings. 
Let&#039;s face it, there has to be excellence in talent and ability to work with other musicians. In my experience, the required skills to play and sing with a worship band are not common, but aquired through mentoring and experience from others. 
Cover band experience provides much of this. How many of us have &quot;cover&quot; background?, (and we serve in worship ministry)  Are we &quot;covering&quot; other christian artist material in our services now? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key word is &quot;leader&quot;&#8230;A leader will have willing followers right?<br />
The leader is forever working out salvation through grace like all the rest of us. Granted, if their personal experience comes from a cover band, they have a lot of room for growth and the challenges that playing / singing worship before others brings.<br />
Let&#039;s face it, there has to be excellence in talent and ability to work with other musicians. In my experience, the required skills to play and sing with a worship band are not common, but aquired through mentoring and experience from others.<br />
Cover band experience provides much of this. How many of us have &quot;cover&quot; background?, (and we serve in worship ministry)  Are we &quot;covering&quot; other christian artist material in our services now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha...northwest bringing it home! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha&#8230;northwest bringing it home!</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Causey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Causey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting, as always, los...

honestly, if this is an issue with your worship leader, how did they get to this position in the first place? Your worship leaders (singers, musicians, pastors, pray-ers, designers, tech, whoever is involved in it all) shape the entire concept of the church&#039;s interactions with God. On and off stage. If they lead, their lives become a standard of sort that people look to as to how to live a life of faith. Like it or not, its true. So if your church has issues like this, perhaps your leadership should re-evaluate what it is they are communicating about what worship is and isn&#039;t, and what&#039;s important and what&#039;s not. if you allow the leaders to play a role (musician, etc...) without a genuine pursuit of holy living behind it, your church will justify the same thing in the way they live.

and honestly, I&#039;ve never thought once about having a &quot;cover song&quot; to play (though i guess its all covers in some sense if I didn&#039;t write them). Is that terminology that works in the way worship design is headed? do i need to smile evenly throughout every song because I don&#039;t know which one counts as the cover? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting, as always, los&#8230;</p>
<p>honestly, if this is an issue with your worship leader, how did they get to this position in the first place? Your worship leaders (singers, musicians, pastors, pray-ers, designers, tech, whoever is involved in it all) shape the entire concept of the church&#8217;s interactions with God. On and off stage. If they lead, their lives become a standard of sort that people look to as to how to live a life of faith. Like it or not, its true. So if your church has issues like this, perhaps your leadership should re-evaluate what it is they are communicating about what worship is and isn&#8217;t, and what&#8217;s important and what&#8217;s not. if you allow the leaders to play a role (musician, etc&#8230;) without a genuine pursuit of holy living behind it, your church will justify the same thing in the way they live.</p>
<p>and honestly, I&#8217;ve never thought once about having a &#8220;cover song&#8221; to play (though i guess its all covers in some sense if I didn&#8217;t write them). Is that terminology that works in the way worship design is headed? do i need to smile evenly throughout every song because I don&#8217;t know which one counts as the cover? <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Keith Barger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Barger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with ya Daniel.  I&#039;m not one to impose anything on anybody else.  I&#039;m too messed up for that.  Those are just thoughts that I use to try to keep myself in check. 
 
And for the record, I use those because it&#039;s where I struggle personally. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m with ya Daniel.  I&#039;m not one to impose anything on anybody else.  I&#039;m too messed up for that.  Those are just thoughts that I use to try to keep myself in check. </p>
<p>And for the record, I use those because it&#039;s where I struggle personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a worship leader.  
I do know our main worship leader here in KC acts more like a wannabe rockstar onstage than a worship leader. To me he comes across as not approachable.  
I do know a worship leader from the same church that I am in community with that doesn&#039;t act that way and is very authentic in his struggles and relationship with Christ. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not a worship leader.<br />
I do know our main worship leader here in KC acts more like a wannabe rockstar onstage than a worship leader. To me he comes across as not approachable.<br />
I do know a worship leader from the same church that I am in community with that doesn&#039;t act that way and is very authentic in his struggles and relationship with Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/08/worship-leader-of-cover-band-singer/#comment-290674</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really hard for me. I&#039;m not a worship leader. You guys and gals who are don&#039;t make any sense to me. I&#039;ve seen so much worrying about motives. While I think they&#039;re important, do any of us really know why we do what we do? Maybe this advise only works for non-worship-leader types, but love Jesus, love your neighbor, and kick tail at whatever it is you do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really hard for me. I&#039;m not a worship leader. You guys and gals who are don&#039;t make any sense to me. I&#039;ve seen so much worrying about motives. While I think they&#039;re important, do any of us really know why we do what we do? Maybe this advise only works for non-worship-leader types, but love Jesus, love your neighbor, and kick tail at whatever it is you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but not nearly as scary as the danger of imposing checkpoints on other people. Not saying you were Keith. Legalism just scares me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but not nearly as scary as the danger of imposing checkpoints on other people. Not saying you were Keith. Legalism just scares me.</p>
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