Comments on: What do you think about church top 10 lists?

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:46:29 +0000

But just because someone pastors a mega church doesnt make them bad. Jesus Preached to thousands and they kept coming back for one reason or another

By: Matt @ The Church of No People

Matt @ The Church of No People — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:12:55 +0000

Hey Los, first of all, you along with Anne and Jon gave a great talk at Catalyst. Second, I thought that was one of the best things Rob said. What does it produce to rank ministries? Is that a spiritual gift or a job designated by Christ? It’s a waste of time and money. People in those churches know what they’re all about. People outside ought to hear their stories, but putting them into a ‘hot or not’ list is childish.

By: cindi

cindi — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:57:39 +0000

My church is on one of those lists, but the hearts of our church leaders are solely focused on reaching people for Christ. We have to measure attendance, number of people in groups, baptisms, etc., to see if our tactics are working. If not, then we change our tactics. But our goal–reaching people for Christ–will never change. It’s the foundation of our vision plan. Don’t judge the churches on the “lists” or assume their motives are not right. Being on the “list” is just one tactic to get people into the building so they can hear about Christ. And yes, we are out being “the church” in the community, too.

By: Crystal Renaud

Crystal Renaud — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:53:30 +0000

i am not sure what i think of these lists, mainly because i don’t understand the point of these lists. what are they truly trying to communicate about these churches? how is this benefiting me as a leader in a church? as a church-goer?

By: Max Monroe

Max Monroe — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:08:24 +0000

90% percent of the time, criticism is a bad thing. It involves telling others what they are doing wrong. Even if it is “Positive’ criticism. So this list is telling all these other churches “Hey! You’re doin it all wrong!” But if that “bad” church brings in a new believer, than that church has fulfilled it’s role.

On the flipside, this list may show the “lesser churches” what LARGER, not better, churches are doing that is drawing a larger crowd.

By: Tim Chambers

Tim Chambers — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:14:39 +0000

I like Rob Bell, but maybe before he judges the motives of others with a blanket statement he should check out this verse before throwing out WTF earlier in the message.Eph. 5:4 – nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.

By: Lex

Lex — Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:49:57 +0000

But IS one salvation as significant as a thousand? We know – because scripture tells us – about the joy in heaven over just one sinner who comes to repentance, but a thousand sinners coming to repentance isn’t more significant?
One is one eternity, one soul, one person that Christ loves more than we know and died for. And if that one were the only soul on the line would He still have gone to the cross? Absolutely.
But a thousand is 999 more. One is good, but I don’t know if I agree that +999 isn’t better.

By: James

James — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:12:14 +0000

What Rob Bell said. Couldn’t have articulated it much better. One salvation is as significant as a thousand.

By: Marcus Williamson

Marcus Williamson — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:57:43 +0000

I believe Rob Bell is on to something. Yeah I understand that he pastors a huge giga church but regardless of this he raises a good thought. Why Rank? Why? Can you give a good enough reason/cause why? To puff up yourself? The world does this, should we? What are our motives? I’ll be honest it would be real cool to see my name up there/my blog up there/anything I do up there. But that’s so selfish, ya know? Does Rob Bell want his name on the list? Not sure if he is looking for his name on the list. I’m sure other people have pointed it out to him but does he want his name on the list? I will choose to Believe the Best (Andy Stanley) and say that he doesn’t.

If your name is on the list, don’t fret, no reason to. All you have to do is stay who you are. And if you have to, humble yourself, that way you dont get BIG headed. That’s where the real problem lies.

By: David

David — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:07:52 +0000

I do not think Rob was referring to outreach magazine or atleast i don’t think he was anyways. Outreach list the top 100 not the top 50. Thats just my opinion.If anyone wasn’t there this was one of the best catalyst talks EVER. Rob hit a grandslam here. Rob summed it up best when he said “when you obey God you won’t want anyone elses life.”He was basically telling people not to compare yourself to another church or leader,don’t be obsessed with growth but with who God called you to be. If you weren’t at catalyst do yourself a favor and hear his talk from this year. I have never agreed with everything Rob has said but on this night i did. Warning this is not a safe message.