Comments on: Jesus on HD http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/ Carlos Whittaker's Weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:42:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: jan owen http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-318679 jan owen Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:48:41 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-318679 This is something that I've been thinking about for some time......have we lost the heart of the matter.... This is something that I’ve been thinking about for some time……have we lost the heart of the matter….

]]> By: Fortuitous Bouncing « Man of Depravity http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-318584 Fortuitous Bouncing « Man of Depravity Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:18:24 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-318584 [...] Leave it to Los to know just how to put it. [...] [...] Leave it to Los to know just how to put it. [...]

]]> By: Tanya http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-318165 Tanya Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:36:47 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-318165 I try reaaalllyyy hard not to compare myself to others. To see me as He might see me and take it one day at a time. Struggling with letting what I do define who I am-mother,creative,wife. I'm just one of His babies waitin to hear "Well done good and faithful servant". Lord make it so! I try reaaalllyyy hard not to compare myself to others. To see me as He might see me and take it one day at a time. Struggling with letting what I do define who I am-mother,creative,wife. I’m just one of His babies waitin to hear “Well done good and faithful servant”. Lord make it so!

]]> By: Carole Turner http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-318122 Carole Turner Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:00:06 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-318122 HA! What I find funny is I have heard the "Excellence" spew mostly from people who want to spend more money on meaningless crap and from people who do nothing but get others to be "excellent" for them. I handle the administration side of things for the worship leader at our campus because he's not a paperwork, schedule type guy, you know, a true musician :-) anyway I have found myself talking excellence in respects to team members who don't want to practice but want to lead on Sunday, want to be in the band but don't know their parts, stuff like that. To me excellence is simply knowing your part and doing it 100% not half a@#. HA! What I find funny is I have heard the “Excellence” spew mostly from people who want to spend more money on meaningless crap and from people who do nothing but get others to be “excellent” for them. I handle the administration side of things for the worship leader at our campus because he’s not a paperwork, schedule type guy, you know, a true musician :-) anyway I have found myself talking excellence in respects to team members who don’t want to practice but want to lead on Sunday, want to be in the band but don’t know their parts, stuff like that. To me excellence is simply knowing your part and doing it 100% not half a@#.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-318016 Andrew Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:37:11 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-318016 A similar question is "How cool is cool enough?" I believe we should not so much strive to be relevant as much as we should make VERY sure that we are not irrelevant. The difference is motive. I know I'm never going to be as relevant as Jude Law but I can be sure I'm not like Jerry Falwell. Pride gets involved because our excellence/cool makes us look good too. I believe we can foster a culture where we strive to remove obstacles to connecting with people and be as culturally normal as possible. Then we can be loving and authentic and relate to people without creating a Christian theme park out of our church. I mean, we all agree that more people might come to our church if we had a roller coaster, but do we really want to spend church resources on that? Can we honestly ask church volunteers to staff that for free? Excellence, Cool, Relevance are all merciless task masters because they are never satisfied. It is up to us to decide how much is enough. I'm delighted that some admits there are other things that matter too. Thanks for the reality check. A similar question is “How cool is cool enough?” I believe we should not so much strive to be relevant as much as we should make VERY sure that we are not irrelevant. The difference is motive. I know I’m never going to be as relevant as Jude Law but I can be sure I’m not like Jerry Falwell. Pride gets involved because our excellence/cool makes us look good too.

I believe we can foster a culture where we strive to remove obstacles to connecting with people and be as culturally normal as possible. Then we can be loving and authentic and relate to people without creating a Christian theme park out of our church. I mean, we all agree that more people might come to our church if we had a roller coaster, but do we really want to spend church resources on that? Can we honestly ask church volunteers to staff that for free?

Excellence, Cool, Relevance are all merciless task masters because they are never satisfied. It is up to us to decide how much is enough. I’m delighted that some admits there are other things that matter too. Thanks for the reality check.

]]> By: Jan in Mexico http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-317978 Jan in Mexico Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:34:33 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-317978 Having lived in a developing world country for the last six years I have to say that this part of the American church is the part I have seen change the most and is also the part that frustrates me the most. I feel like the "excellence" has been taken so far as to make people forget about the world outside. People are so focused on the things happening inside the four walls, the media presentations, the cool stage set, etc and it's at the cost of some really important things. I feel like churches are succumbing to pressure to impress sheep from other flocks, rather than sharing the gospel. The gospel doesn't need anything but the Holy Spirit to change lives, but we feel like we have to dress it up? Having lived in a developing world country for the last six years I have to say that this part of the American church is the part I have seen change the most and is also the part that frustrates me the most. I feel like the “excellence” has been taken so far as to make people forget about the world outside. People are so focused on the things happening inside the four walls, the media presentations, the cool stage set, etc and it’s at the cost of some really important things. I feel like churches are succumbing to pressure to impress sheep from other flocks, rather than sharing the gospel. The gospel doesn’t need anything but the Holy Spirit to change lives, but we feel like we have to dress it up?

]]> By: paul http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-317966 paul Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:41:55 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-317966 It's amazing how these conversations come along at the right time. We are facing these same struggles in our church - we are trying to do our best for the kingdom, using the resources that God has given us, and others within our denominational family can't stand that we are big and they are small (size of our congregation). When will the pettiness end and the real kingdom work begin? It’s amazing how these conversations come along at the right time. We are facing these same struggles in our church – we are trying to do our best for the kingdom, using the resources that God has given us, and others within our denominational family can’t stand that we are big and they are small (size of our congregation).
When will the pettiness end and the real kingdom work begin?

]]> By: Adam Smith http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-317929 Adam Smith Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:25:02 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-317929 yep that last statement says it all yep that last statement says it all

]]> By: Melissa http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-317854 Melissa Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:26:22 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-317854 Just wanted to say thanks for all of the inspiring chaos that goes on here. I've been reading for a while and thoughts like this really hit home. Keep up the authenticity - love what you are doing with your Christ-led life! Just wanted to say thanks for all of the inspiring chaos that goes on here. I’ve been reading for a while and thoughts like this really hit home. Keep up the authenticity – love what you are doing with your Christ-led life!

]]> By: Steve Cuss http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2009/12/jesus-on-hd/#comment-317831 Steve Cuss Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:02:57 +0000 http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=9107#comment-317831 and it was designed with excellence! and it was designed with excellence!

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