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		<title>By: Jay Draper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Draper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for posting a lot of this awesome content!  I am looking forward to seeintg more blogs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for posting a lot of this awesome content!  I am looking forward to seeintg more blogs!</p>
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		<title>By: abriggs</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2010/03/if-a-fat-man-can-lead-a-church/#comment-510408</link>
		<dc:creator>abriggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 22:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Traci.  Also, not all fat people are fat because of gluttony.  Some people have real medical issues that can cause them to be overweight.  The Bible is very direct about sexual sin being a sin against our own bodies and how devasting it can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Traci.  Also, not all fat people are fat because of gluttony.  Some people have real medical issues that can cause them to be overweight.  The Bible is very direct about sexual sin being a sin against our own bodies and how devasting it can be.</p>
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		<title>By: Disturb and Disrupt &#8211; Your View On Sexual Orientation&#160;&#124;&#160;Ragamuffin Soul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disturb and Disrupt &#8211; Your View On Sexual Orientation&#160;&#124;&#160;Ragamuffin Soul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    var addthis_product = &#039;wpp-254&#039;; BEfore you think we have never tackled this on the blog&#8230; Please&#8230;  Read&#8230;  These&#8230; When I talk to my gay friends, and I only have 3 so I&#8217;m not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]    var addthis_product = &#039;wpp-254&#039;; BEfore you think we have never tackled this on the blog&#8230; Please&#8230;  Read&#8230;  These&#8230; When I talk to my gay friends, and I only have 3 so I&#8217;m not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2010/03/if-a-fat-man-can-lead-a-church/#comment-349940</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So then why was David considered to GOD ... did he not defile himself &amp; murder someone ... a sin is a sin is a sin ... while we try to make a distinction of sins to gratify our own agendas ... the fact is that the BIBLE does say all have sinned and come short ... it does say ... if have lustful thoughts you have already committed sin ... sin is a matter of the heart no matter what it is ... we all have crazy thoughts ... most wont admit it ... and while it is influenced by what we allow to minister to us ... the fact is ... its the declaration of this struggle with homosexuality that will allow for healing ... God knows our conditions ... he wants us to declare it ... because by doing so we are talking to him thus &quot;BUILDING&quot; a relationship with GOD ... and the people that are present in the room when such a declaration should walk softly lest they forget ... they have been forgiven also ... because the BIBLE still calls the prodigal &quot;SON&quot; ... and the BIBLE also tells us that if you offend one of his children that we would be better off tying a rope hooked up to a millstone and throwing it into the sea ... and yet it tells those doing the confession not to be offended ... BOTH SIDES NEED TO CONSIDER THAT GOD WILL JUDGE ... FAT OR NOT IF HE IS THE PASTOR HE IS STILL GODS MAN ... LET GOD DEAL WITH IT (AS DAVID DID WITH SAUL) will this be a hard thing to do ... most likely ... and OUTSIDERS LOOKING IN MUST CONSIDER THAT HE DID WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO ON HIS OWN HE WENT TO THE LEADERS AND CONFESSED HIS SIN ... so we as the outsiders need to HOLD HIM UP ... otherwise we are not following the BIBLE ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then why was David considered to GOD &#8230; did he not defile himself &amp; murder someone &#8230; a sin is a sin is a sin &#8230; while we try to make a distinction of sins to gratify our own agendas &#8230; the fact is that the BIBLE does say all have sinned and come short &#8230; it does say &#8230; if have lustful thoughts you have already committed sin &#8230; sin is a matter of the heart no matter what it is &#8230; we all have crazy thoughts &#8230; most wont admit it &#8230; and while it is influenced by what we allow to minister to us &#8230; the fact is &#8230; its the declaration of this struggle with homosexuality that will allow for healing &#8230; God knows our conditions &#8230; he wants us to declare it &#8230; because by doing so we are talking to him thus &#8220;BUILDING&#8221; a relationship with GOD &#8230; and the people that are present in the room when such a declaration should walk softly lest they forget &#8230; they have been forgiven also &#8230; because the BIBLE still calls the prodigal &#8220;SON&#8221; &#8230; and the BIBLE also tells us that if you offend one of his children that we would be better off tying a rope hooked up to a millstone and throwing it into the sea &#8230; and yet it tells those doing the confession not to be offended &#8230; BOTH SIDES NEED TO CONSIDER THAT GOD WILL JUDGE &#8230; FAT OR NOT IF HE IS THE PASTOR HE IS STILL GODS MAN &#8230; LET GOD DEAL WITH IT (AS DAVID DID WITH SAUL) will this be a hard thing to do &#8230; most likely &#8230; and OUTSIDERS LOOKING IN MUST CONSIDER THAT HE DID WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO ON HIS OWN HE WENT TO THE LEADERS AND CONFESSED HIS SIN &#8230; so we as the outsiders need to HOLD HIM UP &#8230; otherwise we are not following the BIBLE &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2010/03/if-a-fat-man-can-lead-a-church/#comment-349896</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In light on Andrea&#039;s comment- I wouldn&#039;t have a problem serving on staff with someone who &quot;struggles&quot; with homosexuality- I mean we all struggle with something- If you&#039;re not &quot;Struggling&quot; I would question about what you&#039;re comfortable with. The church would be a better place if we judged ourselves as much as others :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light on Andrea&#8217;s comment- I wouldn&#8217;t have a problem serving on staff with someone who &#8220;struggles&#8221; with homosexuality- I mean we all struggle with something- If you&#8217;re not &#8220;Struggling&#8221; I would question about what you&#8217;re comfortable with. The church would be a better place if we judged ourselves as much as others <img src='http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: For or Against?&#160;&#124;&#160;Kevin DeShazo</title>
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		<dc:creator>For or Against?&#160;&#124;&#160;Kevin DeShazo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been reading the comments on this post by Carlos Whittaker, regarding a note sent to him by a homosexual friend who was kicked out of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fay</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2010/03/if-a-fat-man-can-lead-a-church/#comment-349793</link>
		<dc:creator>Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s mutual. Love your ministry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s mutual. Love your ministry!</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has to eat SOMETHING...not EVERYTHING. so, you&#039;re basically saying gluttony is ok because we HAVE to eat. i think you missed something there.
i think god wants us to love the sinner, not the sin. to accept some people into the church because we think their sins are smaller or less important to god means we as the church have seriously missed the point of being the church!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has to eat SOMETHING&#8230;not EVERYTHING. so, you&#8217;re basically saying gluttony is ok because we HAVE to eat. i think you missed something there.<br />
i think god wants us to love the sinner, not the sin. to accept some people into the church because we think their sins are smaller or less important to god means we as the church have seriously missed the point of being the church!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
		<link>http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/2010/03/if-a-fat-man-can-lead-a-church/#comment-349777</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I checked my Bible, this shouldn&#039;t even be an issue from the church&#039;s standpoint because only GOD can judge our actions or our hearts.  Even if we say that being homosexual or a glutten is a sin, then WE are judging and that is NOT what God calls us to do.  It is not up to US to decide if what OTHER people do are sins or not, our only responsiblity is for our OWN actions to be as Christlike as possible.  HE calls us to love one another and to accept one another.  As some other posts have already pointed out, ALL of us sin, and NO ONE is in front of anyone else in the line to heaven, based on merits or how you live your life.  As long as a person has accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, then they are our brother/sister in Christ and they should be treated accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I checked my Bible, this shouldn&#8217;t even be an issue from the church&#8217;s standpoint because only GOD can judge our actions or our hearts.  Even if we say that being homosexual or a glutten is a sin, then WE are judging and that is NOT what God calls us to do.  It is not up to US to decide if what OTHER people do are sins or not, our only responsiblity is for our OWN actions to be as Christlike as possible.  HE calls us to love one another and to accept one another.  As some other posts have already pointed out, ALL of us sin, and NO ONE is in front of anyone else in the line to heaven, based on merits or how you live your life.  As long as a person has accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, then they are our brother/sister in Christ and they should be treated accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that being overweight is not necessarily a sign of gluttony. And sadly, although I have been underweight most of my life, gluttony is MY biggest struggle.  Can&#039;t keep ice cream in the house because I will eat the whole quart in one sitting. However, I think we&#039;re making an assumption that this guy was saying that this man struggled with gluttony just because he was &quot;fat&quot;.  He obviously spent a lot of time with him, so he would have been able to witness certain behaviors.  And he was obviously speaking from his pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that being overweight is not necessarily a sign of gluttony. And sadly, although I have been underweight most of my life, gluttony is MY biggest struggle.  Can&#8217;t keep ice cream in the house because I will eat the whole quart in one sitting. However, I think we&#8217;re making an assumption that this guy was saying that this man struggled with gluttony just because he was &#8220;fat&#8221;.  He obviously spent a lot of time with him, so he would have been able to witness certain behaviors.  And he was obviously speaking from his pain.</p>
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